why do you guys drift?
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Originally posted by ReginaVagina
I already answered your question. Drifting is hard to grasp for you because of your mentality
I already answered your question. Drifting is hard to grasp for you because of your mentality
Out of all that the above quote puzzles me.
My mentality ? WTF is that supposed to mean ? Did you see me make harsh comments ?
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Originally posted by Scott
Out of all that the above quote puzzles me.
My mentality ? WTF is that supposed to mean ? Did you see me make harsh comments ?
Out of all that the above quote puzzles me.
My mentality ? WTF is that supposed to mean ? Did you see me make harsh comments ?
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Originally posted by RiceRocket
Scott....I still Disagree.
To drag race, all you need to know is how to rev an engine and drop a clutch. It's 9-15 secs of STRAIGHT LINE! That means what????
ON a course like Primus, there were 12+ turns. That requires 12 seperate split second decisions involving car speed, angle of entry, exit angle, maintaining the drift, and not spinning out.
Let's think about which one takes more skill....d'uh
And you say you've drifted? I have a friend that told me he could Auto-X. He based his assumption on the fact that his car was tight as hell (Almost no suspension travel) and that he takes hard corners through subdivisions. I finally got him to ride with me in an Auto-X....in comment? "holy shit".
Nuff said right there. Any Jackass can slide a car around a corner, or in a parking lot, but try to do this on an actual course....different ballgame there.
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Scott....I still Disagree.
To drag race, all you need to know is how to rev an engine and drop a clutch. It's 9-15 secs of STRAIGHT LINE! That means what????
ON a course like Primus, there were 12+ turns. That requires 12 seperate split second decisions involving car speed, angle of entry, exit angle, maintaining the drift, and not spinning out.
Let's think about which one takes more skill....d'uh
And you say you've drifted? I have a friend that told me he could Auto-X. He based his assumption on the fact that his car was tight as hell (Almost no suspension travel) and that he takes hard corners through subdivisions. I finally got him to ride with me in an Auto-X....in comment? "holy shit".
Nuff said right there. Any Jackass can slide a car around a corner, or in a parking lot, but try to do this on an actual course....different ballgame there.
Charles
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Originally posted by SR20DET
I'm gonna disagree with ya there
I'd say the suspension(cheap stuff) gets about the same or maybe a little more of a workout autox'ing compared to drifting.
However, the driveline(expensive stuff) on your car gets abused WAY more during drifting compared to autoX or drag.
I'm gonna disagree with ya there
I'd say the suspension(cheap stuff) gets about the same or maybe a little more of a workout autox'ing compared to drifting.
However, the driveline(expensive stuff) on your car gets abused WAY more during drifting compared to autoX or drag.
Let's be honest and compare drifting and drag racing when talking about driveline.
What is getting the blunt end of force applied to it when you have a set of 10 inch slicks or even drag radials an you drop the clutch at 4 grand?
If your driveshaft is aluminum, dont worry bout it, well then again what else will go if the shaft wont? U joints are very easy to kill especially if they are zerk fitted, the ring and pinion are taking quite a bit if snap to them each time you drop the clutch and make them snap to propel you forward and if none of that goes then you still have to worry about your tranni.
Now in drifting I can really only think of messing up my clutch at most because there is no hard shifting going on so for the most part, my tranni is safe. My gears are turning like normal with a little speed but no snap and hard launches so the rear end is going to be just fine, losing grip and keeping a loss of grip wont hurt the clutch simply because well , there is little force being applied to the tires(driveline) to burn the clutch or slow it down at all and in drag racing there is nothing but an immidiate pressure being stuck to it all at once.
Please never say anything involving driveline again, please never again.
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lets do some math
drag racing
first gear, assuming you have traction
lets take alook at the torque applied to the rear wheels
a car like regina's say
250 ft-lbs of torque @ rear wheels
x
3.321 first gear ( the launch, right )
x
4.08 differential gear (no matter waht)
=
3387 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels
WITH TRACTION! that the differential, axles, and hubs must survive
compare this to drifting in second gear
200 ft-lbs (only running 10psi) probably less ( not on the throttle 100%)
x
1.902 second gear (you dont drift in first)
x
4.08 rear gear ( gets multiplied the same )
=
1552 ft-lbs of torque when drifting in second gear ( but probably much less, because that's only when you're on the throttle 100% full boost)
So, now that you have been mathematically proven wrong on the fact that drifting puts more stress on your drivetrain, do you care to play some more ?
drag racing
first gear, assuming you have traction
lets take alook at the torque applied to the rear wheels
a car like regina's say
250 ft-lbs of torque @ rear wheels
x
3.321 first gear ( the launch, right )
x
4.08 differential gear (no matter waht)
=
3387 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels
WITH TRACTION! that the differential, axles, and hubs must survive
compare this to drifting in second gear
200 ft-lbs (only running 10psi) probably less ( not on the throttle 100%)
x
1.902 second gear (you dont drift in first)
x
4.08 rear gear ( gets multiplied the same )
=
1552 ft-lbs of torque when drifting in second gear ( but probably much less, because that's only when you're on the throttle 100% full boost)
So, now that you have been mathematically proven wrong on the fact that drifting puts more stress on your drivetrain, do you care to play some more ?
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Originally posted by Mattback
lets do some math
drag racing
first gear, assuming you have traction
lets take alook at the torque applied to the rear wheels
a car like regina's say
250 ft-lbs of torque @ rear wheels
x
3.321 first gear ( the launch, right )
x
4.08 differential gear (no matter waht)
=
3387 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels
WITH TRACTION! that the differential, axles, and hubs must survive
compare this to drifting in second gear
200 ft-lbs (only running 10psi) probably less ( not on the throttle 100%)
x
1.902 second gear (you dont drift in first)
x
4.08 rear gear ( gets multiplied the same )
=
1552 ft-lbs of torque when drifting in second gear ( but probably much less, because that's only when you're on the throttle 100% full boost)
So, now that you have been mathematically proven wrong on the fact that drifting puts more stress on your drivetrain, do you care to play some more ?
lets do some math
drag racing
first gear, assuming you have traction
lets take alook at the torque applied to the rear wheels
a car like regina's say
250 ft-lbs of torque @ rear wheels
x
3.321 first gear ( the launch, right )
x
4.08 differential gear (no matter waht)
=
3387 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels
WITH TRACTION! that the differential, axles, and hubs must survive
compare this to drifting in second gear
200 ft-lbs (only running 10psi) probably less ( not on the throttle 100%)
x
1.902 second gear (you dont drift in first)
x
4.08 rear gear ( gets multiplied the same )
=
1552 ft-lbs of torque when drifting in second gear ( but probably much less, because that's only when you're on the throttle 100% full boost)
So, now that you have been mathematically proven wrong on the fact that drifting puts more stress on your drivetrain, do you care to play some more ?
fucking owned!
hahaha , nice math Matt. I couldn't believe it myself when he compared the two sports.
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the world isn't entirely a simple math problem. In a drift event, you are on and off the throttle, sustained high RPM low speed (no air movement through the engine bay), on the brakes hard, burning the piss out of your tires, tossing the weight of the car around (more stress on the unibody). Need I go on? I'd LOVE to drift, but I won't tear my car up.
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Originally posted by Force Fed 23
the world isn't entirely a simple math problem. In a drift event, you are on and off the throttle, sustained high RPM low speed (no air movement through the engine bay), on the brakes hard, burning the piss out of your tires, tossing the weight of the car around (more stress on the unibody). Need I go on? I'd LOVE to drift, but I won't tear my car up.
the world isn't entirely a simple math problem. In a drift event, you are on and off the throttle, sustained high RPM low speed (no air movement through the engine bay), on the brakes hard, burning the piss out of your tires, tossing the weight of the car around (more stress on the unibody). Need I go on? I'd LOVE to drift, but I won't tear my car up.
-assuming your cooling system is up to par, you should have no problems unless you are doing tons of continuous laps, which no one was.
"on the brakes hard"
-techniques, and on a course such as primus, it was much more technical than go-fast, so this isn't even an issue
"burning piss out of tireS"
-um yeah, cuz like these are hard to replace.
"stress on unibody"
-welcome to suspension modifications...this is why you do them, duh. ever heard of chasis bracing? ...hmm...no? ...how about drag-radials! ah hah! there we go. I knew you'd get one.
and I dont understand your point...its only a car, and to have fun whether drag-racing, drifting, or auto-x, NONE of the above are 'good' for the car and can only break shit. If you want to do any of them, its all part of the game. Gotta pay to play.
So if you don't want to "tear your car up", buy a garage and leave it parked 365 days out of the year.
