why do you guys drift?
Originally posted by Force Fed 23
Drifting will abuse a car far worse than drag racing. And if you wasted more tread while drag racing than drifting you're doing something wrong.
I also disagree with RiceRocket, all forms of motorsport are equal parts car and driver. If you don't believe it, take a high HP, FWD car and try to launch it effectively at the track. Alot more than 25% going on there. The same can be said for any form of motorsport, a good driver can make a bad car look better, but a bad car is still a bad car and a great driver is still a great driver.
Drifting will abuse a car far worse than drag racing. And if you wasted more tread while drag racing than drifting you're doing something wrong.
I also disagree with RiceRocket, all forms of motorsport are equal parts car and driver. If you don't believe it, take a high HP, FWD car and try to launch it effectively at the track. Alot more than 25% going on there. The same can be said for any form of motorsport, a good driver can make a bad car look better, but a bad car is still a bad car and a great driver is still a great driver.
When line locking at the track,I damn sure spin more rubber off in a night full of burnouts then I do or did all day at drift day.
Originally posted by SR20DET
I'm gonna disagree with ya there
I'd say the suspension(cheap stuff) gets about the same or maybe a little more of a workout autox'ing compared to drifting.
However, the driveline(expensive stuff) on your car gets abused WAY more during drifting compared to autoX or drag.
I'm gonna disagree with ya there
I'd say the suspension(cheap stuff) gets about the same or maybe a little more of a workout autox'ing compared to drifting.
However, the driveline(expensive stuff) on your car gets abused WAY more during drifting compared to autoX or drag.
In drag, in order to do well you have to have a huge amount of traction on the rear tires which will overcome many clutches after just a few passes. In drifting, however, you're breaking loose the traction so the clutch doesn't have to work hard at all and will last very long. Sometimes in drag, with Nissans, they're prone to breaking output shafts and also shift forks, etc. Drifting, usually when you break something it's because you hit something or your car wasn't ready to take on a motorsport (something was weak or failing already).
I still don't understand how auto-x is any nicer on the car than drifting... explain it to me because I've done all 3 and the only thing that has EVER hurt my car is drag racing.
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Originally posted by SR20DET
Also, I guess I'm just into seeing how fast I can get from point A to point B on the course without worrying about how I looked doing it
Also, I guess I'm just into seeing how fast I can get from point A to point B on the course without worrying about how I looked doing it
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u know i heard a funny story about a crx turning a faster lap time than ne nascar ever did. thing to make u go poop!
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Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
why has no 1 even brought up the hands down number 1 most difficult form of racing F1.cause the only thing that even comes close is wrx. just curious. and by the way if ne one has the monico gp taped and would let me borrow it i would be very greatfull!
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Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
seems like this would get old since there are no lap times for you to improve on because it is all juding right? [/B][/QUOTE]
in drifting u dont perform for just a measly 11-10 secs you have to stay focused for the whole lap to have a good run. and that last for about 10 turns oh yeah turns! so to be consitant in drifting is way harder tha dragging. hell i used to race people in an 99 m3 with my knees. people loved that.
in drifting u dont perform for just a measly 11-10 secs you have to stay focused for the whole lap to have a good run. and that last for about 10 turns oh yeah turns! so to be consitant in drifting is way harder tha dragging. hell i used to race people in an 99 m3 with my knees. people loved that.
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Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
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Funny how no one has touched this part of my previous statement:
"And I know for me and many others it lacks respect becasue it is all based on judging. No lap times or e.t.'s to improve upon just basically who looks the coolest. What is there to aim for ? No lap records, personal bests (lap times), etc..
And the car can basically be some shitbox with the right tires on it and you are good to go. Sure a little extra power helps but again it lacks so many things other motorsports have. "
You guys say it is more than just sliding around corners "it is art"
ummmm o.k. and that drag racing is just stepping on the gas and going. I will stick with my previous statement of you guys are basing drag racing on your own 14 or second slower cars.
This would be a more interesting debate outside of this forum.
"And I know for me and many others it lacks respect becasue it is all based on judging. No lap times or e.t.'s to improve upon just basically who looks the coolest. What is there to aim for ? No lap records, personal bests (lap times), etc..
And the car can basically be some shitbox with the right tires on it and you are good to go. Sure a little extra power helps but again it lacks so many things other motorsports have. "
You guys say it is more than just sliding around corners "it is art"
ummmm o.k. and that drag racing is just stepping on the gas and going. I will stick with my previous statement of you guys are basing drag racing on your own 14 or second slower cars.This would be a more interesting debate outside of this forum.
Originally posted by Scott
Funny how no one has touched this part of my previous statement:
"And I know for me and many others it lacks respect becasue it is all based on judging. No lap times or e.t.'s to improve upon just basically who looks the coolest. What is there to aim for ? No lap records, personal bests (lap times), etc..
And the car can basically be some shitbox with the right tires on it and you are good to go. Sure a little extra power helps but again it lacks so many things other motorsports have. "
You guys say it is more than just sliding around corners "it is art"
ummmm o.k. and that drag racing is just stepping on the gas and going. I will stick with my previous statement of you guys are basing drag racing on your own 14 or second slower cars.
This would be a more interesting debate outside of this forum.
Funny how no one has touched this part of my previous statement:
"And I know for me and many others it lacks respect becasue it is all based on judging. No lap times or e.t.'s to improve upon just basically who looks the coolest. What is there to aim for ? No lap records, personal bests (lap times), etc..
And the car can basically be some shitbox with the right tires on it and you are good to go. Sure a little extra power helps but again it lacks so many things other motorsports have. "
You guys say it is more than just sliding around corners "it is art"
ummmm o.k. and that drag racing is just stepping on the gas and going. I will stick with my previous statement of you guys are basing drag racing on your own 14 or second slower cars.This would be a more interesting debate outside of this forum.
There is always room for much improvement as was seen at DDayII last saturday. Most people (the beginners) started out understeering. Then they moved on to spinning out. Finally, by the end of the day, each person had conquered at least one turn on the Primus track. The goal I'm sure of each person was to be able to drift the entire track, which obviously is impossible to learn in one day.
Even experienced drifters found Primus to be difficult. There's another place with need for improvement. To be able to drift on any track with any compound. Because primus was more technical than say an oval track, many found it to be too "tight" and had a hard time finding their lines and correct techniques. Like road race, with drifting the track or wherever will almost always be different in many cases, especially with practice events. If you're a professional or just really good you would probably be able to drift ANYWHERE.
My car ran a 13.2 @ 106mph and is probably capable of a little better. Matt Chin's car is capable of being in the 12's now. It's not like there's much room for improvement once I reach what my car is capable of with the best driver. There will be nothing more to improve unless I modify the car. I have nothing against drag racing. I just find drifting to be more fun and challenging. Drag is definitely challenging as well since I obviously didn't do well the first time I tried it. Drifting is definitely easier with more power, that's why we like practicing in the rain because rain = +500hp for the car.

I agree, any kid with a POS 240 can go out and try to drift, but ANYONE will tell you that having more power, wayyyy more suspension, etc, will help tremendously. Not only make it easier, but make it possible in some cases. If you've seen any pro drifters you'd notice their cars are usually race cars... hahaha 500hp, etc.
Are you understanding any of this? I get the feeling you just came in here to flame drifting and cheer for drag racing.

Did I touch it enough?

Oh yeah and WHAT SUCIO SAID! Well said.
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heck yah regina you stroked it well lol.
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Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/
Evldereckx2 [5:48 PM]: hey if u hook it up with a fatty thats a good excuse to get a sr lol
Ag04 [5:49 PM]: lmao
Ag04 [5:50 PM]: "but daaaaaad.... I need those cams, injectors, and dyno tuning to still get a 12 sec 1/4 with my 250lb g/f in the car!!!
heres your sign!!!! http://www.myspaceisgay.com/


