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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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ethanol is not the answer. this 10% ethanol in gas screws up alot,not only automobiles not made for it but what about mowers,edgers,blowers and all the gas powered things.Gas will never go away but ethanol is no the right move. For all the fields of corn for ethanol there is now less fields to produce wheat,corn, and all our other foods that our produced by corn,why do you think the price of everything we eat has gone up? its not necessarily the price of gas ,its ethanol. And if certain people would get their head out of their ass,this country has so much oil in reserves its not even funny.even if we started drilling the gulf or south dakota or even more of alaska,we wont see it for many years.

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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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also all the oil thats just sitting in warehouses in venezuela. millions of gallons not being used. gas is only like $.07 there.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by J-Dizzle
ethanol is not the answer. this 10% ethanol in gas screws up alot,not only automobiles not made for it but what about mowers,edgers,blowers and all the gas powered things.Gas will never go away but ethanol is no the right move. For all the fields of corn for ethanol there is now less fields to produce wheat,corn, and all our other foods that our produced by corn,why do you think the price of everything we eat has gone up? its not necessarily the price of gas ,its ethanol. And if certain people would get their head out of their ass,this country has so much oil in reserves its not even funny.even if we started drilling the gulf or south dakota or even more of alaska,we wont see it for many years.
you my friend are quite ignorant when it comes to ethanol in both engine design and production...also ignorant when it comes to the knowledge and past when it comes to fuel conversions...
do you recall when the world phased out leaded fuels?
also do some looking into cellulose ethanol. You can keep eating your corn.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by homemade wrx
also do some looking into cellulose ethanol. You can keep eating your corn.

i know what both are but ethanol is misleading. its not as good as everyone states, there are more unknows then there are knows.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by homemade wrx
you my friend are quite ignorant when it comes to ethanol in both engine design and production...also ignorant when it comes to the knowledge and past when it comes to fuel conversions...
do you recall when the world phased out leaded fuels?
also do some looking into cellulose ethanol. You can keep eating your corn.
that was rude. im not trying to start an argument on this issue, Im just interested in it and want to know more about it.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GsT Racer
that was rude. im not trying to start an argument on this issue, Im just interested in it and want to know more about it.
google is your friend. but im also doing a speech on ethanol so ive been doing alot of research on the negatives.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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1000rwhp with $2 fuel? E85 is pretty cool stuff.

Gst here is a link to the use of e-85 in turbo applications.
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Superluminal
It's funny that only a couple people know what they're talking about, and the rest say it sucks because they're clueless.
Agreed
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Old Apr 23, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by J-Dizzle
google is your friend. but im also doing a speech on ethanol so ive been doing alot of research on the negatives.
you'll also find a lot of the negatives are related to flex fuel vehicles which aren't designed to run on ethanol so much as they are designed to tolerate it and gasoline.
Ethanol needs lots of cylinder pressure to become an efficient fuel. I.E. an engine I built on E85 was 11.5:1 CR with 19 psi and no intercooler

The other downside is the crop/field comments, which are pretty much solved by cellulose development. Much like algae to biodiesel.

By all means, bounce your ethanol views off of me as I've done lots of research, design, joint projects (Dartmouth, MIT, GA Tech and ODU/NASA) and been in several SAE/international level lectures on alternative fuels.

as for GST racer....why does every think the word ignorant is abusive or rude, especially when it is used properly?...maybe I was a bit aggressive in my reply to a gross statement packed full of incorrect and unsupported statements...I'll try and tone it back a bit.
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