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A short bitch about boost controllers.... leading up to what I did today.


So basically screw MBC's. I've never run one and don't plan on it.

The electronic boost controller market is vast. You have everything from your basic Profec B Spec-S (which is pretty sweet) to shit no one has heard of. For most of you with a simple SR swap or small KA-T, a PBSS is more than you'll ever need. For people who have more than that, selecting a boost controller is more difficult.

So what I want is a controller that has at least 2 settings, real closed loop control, external pressure sensor, and boost by gear. You might think, hey, just get an Apexi AVC-R! Between buggy firmware and looking like a huge pile of F&F (even the black one), I'm not going to run it. So what else is there... World Performance TBC-1 for $1100? not so much. AMS-1000 for $850, errr no. I was also keen on the gameboy interfaced DTEC BC pro, but those seem to have disappeared off the face of the planet. Apparently they won't run the wastegate like I do and they're $550 or so.

So now I'm losing features. I went with a Gizzmo MS-iBC that's like $350 these day (was $600) that doesn't do boost by gear, but it does have 6 settings, external switch input, and really good closed loop setup. I do hate running a boost reference under the dash, though.

By the way, the closed loop feature is the FIRST thing you should look for if you're going to spend the money. Hate boost taper? A closed loop controller will adjust the duty cycle on it's own to compensate for it. All of the other open loop controllers will just run a fixed duty cycle and whatever happens (creep, taper), happens.

So here's where the problem comes in. The reason I want boost by gear is that once you have about 300ft-lbs, you can't hook 1st gear on the street with DR's. With boost by gear, it would sense that you're in 1st and you can then set that up for a lower boost level. Same thing for 2nd, until you're running full boost in 3rd or 4th. Since my EBC doesn't have this feature I need to trigger these different boost settings manually. With one hand on the wheel and one on the stick, that limits my options. So I decided to buy a Greddy RSS (remote steering switch) to trigger the EBC. No doubt this will look gay, but now I'll be able to go WOT in 1st and still point the right direction! It also get a signal off the wheel without having wires everywhere. The other option was to get a "go baby, go" shift knob and wire that to the boost controller, but I like my Z32 knob. and I'm a knob snob.

So to thread jack myself.... everyone who wants 1000whp cars needs to figure out how they're going to put that on the ground. The limit of acceleration then becomes the limit of traction, not the limit of power. That boils down to 2 solutions: gear it way the hell up so that you're doing 70mph in 1st (Z06, Viper), or boost by gear. ... or traction control like a Race Logic box, but they're you're talking about serious money.

 

so i got my turbo back from extreme turbo shop in lakeland yesterday. i got there and not only did they open it up and tell me that everything was ok with it but they refurbished the outside to a new-looking state. it literally looks brand new. then i went to take my money out and pay him and he said no thanks, this ones free of charge.

those guys tere are bad ass. they have an awesome shop and know a shit load about turboes. if anyone needs any kind of nitrous or forced industion work done i highly suggest them. they wont let you down.

 

I won't pretend I fully understand what that BC does, but I was considering it as a possibility for my RB when it all comes to fruition. I was wondering if you could provide some real world install/set-up info and your driving impressions of it. Thanks ahead of time.

Thread response: I drove mine to work. Rode in a supercharged miata to lunch today, and enjoyed the hell out of it. No homo.

 

I live in lakeland. I just moved out here. where are they located? maybe I'll have to drop by and give those guys a visit.

 

installed a cooling panel onto the coupe.....now im insearch of mr dremel an cut off wheel >.>

 

oil leaks!

 

This was my multi-step boost controller on top of my MBC:

 

Install of the Gizzmo MS-iBC is pretty damn easy. You have the solenoid that I put out by the turbo with 2 wires. Then you have power. Hook up the boost reference and that's it. There's 2 more wires if you want an external scramble/setting button. The menu and navigation is a little odd so I keep the manual handy. It's 6 settings, all independantly adjustable, all have closed loop options. Set the gain and duty, do a pull to dial in the response/level, turn on closed loop and you're done. Button can be used to select the next boost setting [1-6] or trigger a scramble which will up the boost (to a level you program) temporarily. Like if you're on a track and want to get around someone... hit the button to dial up more boost to get around him. It doesn't try to be everything to everyone. It just does what it's supposed to very well. I like that it's compact and the display is just numbers.

 

I talked to it......Told her that her coilovers are here but i won't get home from work in time to pick them up today....