So last year my stupid x gf broke my door lock key (car has had different ign key and key for all the locks since i got it), and i've been without a key to the locks since, just didnt bother taking care of the issue, got an S14 subframe from dan, and while browsing zilvia, saw mention of the mounting holes being spaced out different, and a company offering solid bushings with the holes offset to remedy this...

I've already decided I want poly subframe bushings, so I was looking around at 2 part polyurethanes to make your own bushings, decided to verify the mounting hole spacing issue, measure the S14 subframe bolt hole distance, crawl under my car with flashlight and tape measure in hand, measure and verify the difference, then see something at the rear bumper support, no way, hide-a-key, sure enough fits the door locks

 

haha nice. i had a very simliar thing happen. key was hidden probably like 5 owners before me haha, it was pretty crusty

 

You're in for a squeaky ride my friend...

 

why you want to rock a s14 subframe?

 

wider track and better geometry.

touge factory sells offset solid bushings, they just don't list them on their website. gotta call them to order a set.

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/285083...hing-help.html

 

ohhh I get it so it makes his +60 offsets sit more flush hahaha

 

The hole offset is 5mm per side, roughly. The S14 subframe is wider than the S13 one and only in the one dimension (extending from the centerline). You can actually read all of this in the FSM Body section.

The subframe locating pins/studs have a huge taper to them. You can actually get the S14 subframe to engage all 4 pins on the S13. Then just force the subframe on with a jack, which will compress the bushings inwards. Done, and it ain't going anywhere. You can follow up with some WindoWeld if you want to fill in the voids.

I did this years ago. Tons of people have used the same method in competition cars as well. Sounds hack, but it's proven. I refuse to spend a billion dollars on aluminum bushings that will make the car loud and crappy, as well.

 

Tommy, there has been a debate about having to use offset bushings for a while.

Check on zilvia, there is 2 or 3 threads about it. A few members say that they have been using s14 subframes, with s14 bushings in s13s for quite a while. I don't know if any of that holds weight at all, but I would def check with them(its a shot IIRC) and see whats up before you spend unneeded money.

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Damnit, Chris beat me again.. Fucker =(

 

Well, that and it significantly improves the anti-squat geometry and huge toe-in that the S13 has. Basically, more grip and traction in the rear. Especially useful once you start to make power.

 

I have a stock SR, I need not these things I have no torque and am probably slower than a KA haha.