I would own a Ford taurus especially the Sho over any Supra. I love the supra I think its a beautiful car but I am such a huge Taurus fan . I owned one and It was the most reliable car I have ever owned. The only reason Why it is not parked outside because the car came from up north and the frame rusted and fell apart. Never ever was able to find a Shell so I junked it at LKQ for $250.00

Edit: I would own a Brand new Ford Taurus over any car. I love that car a lot but it is too expensive for me

 

yes? Miss me?

 

The new SHO is not the best in styling, its not ugly by any means, but just not me, but everything else is awesome, but that engine is awesome come on! I cant wait for the new ford line up's to be cheaper.

 

Ugh @ this thead

 

needs 6 speed manual tranny now.

 

Speaking of Ecoboost...this month's Hot Rod:



Story Here: 1934 Ford Coupe - Custom EcoBoost-Powered '34 Three-Window Street Rod - Hot Rod Magazine

 

You can only give credit to the motor. If that is what your talking about.

Ford still fucked up like USUAL sticking that motor in the worst of cars.

Hopefully the new Focus isnt some slap stick piece of crap

 

Its good to see ford stop ignoring the advancements in power train technology that euro/asian manufacturers have been embracing. Hopefully domestic vehicles other than the viper and corvette will be on par with their import competitors. I've always marveled at how the V8 mustangs always struggled to get above the 300hp mark when the euro market has the S4 at 350hp, the RS4 at 420 hp, and now the RS5 at 450hp all with the same 4.2L V8. The M3s pump out 420hp out of its 4L V8, while the 6L LS2 only manages 400hp. I'm glad someone at a domestic automaker finally realized there are many different types of displacement replacements.


Audi did this 9 years ago, they called it the S4. 2.7L Biturbo V6 capable of 450hp at the wheels with OE RS4 turbos and a new clutch, Quattro, 6-speed. And it also came as a wagon! I love mine

 

You're comparing the Mustang 4.6 OHV to the DOHC V8's, so of course they are going to make more HP (saying nothing about torque). Also, the 4.6 is spec'd to run on 87 octane, which means dramatically lower compression ratios and less aggressive cam profiles, smaller ports, etc. Do we even need to discuss the vast difference of 25-30k+ in MSRPs? Neither Euro nor Asian produce a V8 in the same price class of the Americans, but you didnt mention that

 

Thats true, but up until the last few years, the 4.6 was one of the most advanced V8s ford had to offer. I hate that american companies are just now moving to high compression DOHC layouts that allow for much more power at much higher fuel efficiencies. There is a price difference, but its there for a reason. The mustang was still being offered with a straight axle, cheap plastic feeling interior, 2wd, and technology thats been around for 40 years under the hood. The S4 has AWD, full leather interior with classy-as-hell wood or aluminum trim, auto-levelling HIDs, in dash touch screen navigation, a suspension not designed for a tow truck, and an engine that manages a specific output of over 80bhp/L as opposed to the mustangs 65bhp/L. I'm not saying the Gt isn't a great value, especially now that they have the new 5.0 which will actually approach a respectable specific output of 80bhp/L. It just bothers me that domestic companies are so far behind in the technology field. I know some people aren't willing to pay the price difference, but when I had the choice of buying a new-to-me vehicle from the early 2000s, I picked ze germans over the good ol' USA because I can't find anything better than the feel of a german sedan built to cruise the autobahn.