Ecoboost is already showing its potential
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For me it has one of the best styling cars in a long time. I like the way it looks. I am a very picky person and this car looks very nice on the outside and has really really nice interior to me. Lots of other cars looks so plain jane in the inside.
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1. Lots of cars have the same interior.
2. They don't change much between models
3. Lots of their cars have plain jane interior however they have been stepping up their game the past few years.
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Thats true, but up until the last few years, the 4.6 was one of the most advanced V8s ford had to offer. I hate that american companies are just now moving to high compression DOHC layouts that allow for much more power at much higher fuel efficiencies. There is a price difference, but its there for a reason. The mustang was still being offered with a straight axle, cheap plastic feeling interior, 2wd, and technology thats been around for 40 years under the hood. The S4 has AWD, full leather interior with classy-as-hell wood or aluminum trim, auto-levelling HIDs, in dash touch screen navigation, a suspension not designed for a tow truck, and an engine that manages a specific output of over 80bhp/L as opposed to the mustangs 65bhp/L. I'm not saying the Gt isn't a great value, especially now that they have the new 5.0 which will actually approach a respectable specific output of 80bhp/L. It just bothers me that domestic companies are so far behind in the technology field. I know some people aren't willing to pay the price difference, but when I had the choice of buying a new-to-me vehicle from the early 2000s, I picked ze germans over the good ol' USA because I can't find anything better than the feel of a german sedan built to cruise the autobahn.
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You're comparing the Mustang 4.6 OHV to the DOHC V8's, so of course they are going to make more HP (saying nothing about torque). Also, the 4.6 is spec'd to run on 87 octane, which means dramatically lower compression ratios and less aggressive cam profiles, smaller ports, etc. Do we even need to discuss the vast difference of 25-30k+ in MSRPs? Neither Euro nor Asian produce a V8 in the same price class of the Americans, but you didnt mention that 
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There is a price difference, but its there for a reason. The mustang was still being offered with a straight axle, cheap plastic feeling interior, 2wd, and technology thats been around for 40 years under the hood. The S4 has AWD, full leather interior with classy-as-hell wood or aluminum trim, auto-levelling HIDs, in dash touch screen navigation, a suspension not designed for a tow truck, and an engine that manages a specific output of over 80bhp/L as opposed to the mustangs 65bhp/L. I'm not saying the Gt isn't a great value, especially now that they have the new 5.0 which will actually approach a respectable specific output of 80bhp/L.
I don't know how many times it has to be explained ricer math. Displacement equals low end torque. If you plan on taking that displacement and making it rev higher to obtain high horsepower levels, you will pay more for that privilege.
It just bothers me that domestic companies are so far behind in the technology field. I know some people aren't willing to pay the price difference, but when I had the choice of buying a new-to-me vehicle from the early 2000s, I picked ze germans over the good ol' USA because I can't find anything better than the feel of a german sedan built to cruise the autobahn.
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Its behind because it isn't coming out until the 2011 model line, even though ford holds the patent for its cylinder walls, Nissan has been using that technology since they started developing the GTR. The ecoboost is again brand new, my audi is 9 years old and sports the same technology. Everything ford is doing they are only just now doing, which makes them behind.
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Actually, VWs tend to do a better job making torque than HP
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Below 2500 rshared_pm. His engine only revs to 6500. Tiny Turbo = shit ton of torque.
