This is the wrap up right here. It's a lose/lose situation. We need to come to a decision that is going to have the most limited loss. I don't believe most of you understand the consiqueces of letting a huge US corportion like GM going out of business. This would be disasterous for the economy, and it won't stop with GM. I believe we are in a state of economy now where people are now spending less and saving more, but the big companies and corporations are still producing like we're in an economic high. They don't want to stop producing this way because it would mean less money, but it's happening because nobody is buying. The greedy bastards at the top don't want to downsize or rethink their corporate goals. So this problem tumbles all the way down the tree to the union workers.

We are most likely going to have to bail them out if they cannot come up with a feasible economic solution, and we're all going to pay for it big time. If GM cannot get their act together, they deserve to fall, but we can't let them. Do you see the dilemma. Lose/lose.

We are in for a recession folks whether you like it or note, unless Obama can pull out some amazing economic plan during his term, which is highly unlikely. It's only going to get worse as the once "3rd world countries" are now becoming fully industrialized and becoming a major competiton for the market and jobs, as they are unrestricted by the rules and regulations we are constrained to. We might start buying their products and services, which would be much cheaper and furthur worsen the US, by becoming dependant not just on oil, but on the products and services that us consumers take for ganted.

The large US based coroporations MUST get up to speed the standards and economic preferance of todays age if they are to survive or we will be pretty much "bought over" by other countries.

The pieces are set.... let the games begin.

 

^since you got into the foriegn country thing, Im going to say this

RAISE import taxes, and lower business taxes.

 

You know the kind of odd part here ... either way the money for all this doesn't really exist and probably never will.

I rented for work a Chevy Aveo (sp?) and with all highway driving it got 26.7 mpg.

2008 Chevy Aveo
Highway driving 95% City 5%
Mileage 283.6
Gallons at Fill Up 10.590
MPG 26.7

Pictures: Chevrolet | 2009 Aveo - Vehicle Photo Gallery | Chevy Aveo

Small car with horrid gas mileage imho. The Ford Escort I had to rent (grandma car for sure) made it from Melbourne to Clermont to West Palm Beach to Melbourne all on one tank. Not so much with this car; same trip as the previous one and I HAD to fill up in West Palm and I have to again to take it back to the rental agency.

The sad part when I Googled this car, people thought its gas mpg was great. If they knew what my Civics are getting with the bhp they have ... i bet they would change their minds.

Completely unimpressed.

 

just face it the imports are winning.

they are better made cars

 

^wrong, better looking cars yes, better cars not anymore.

 

maybe so, but imports have been more consistant

 

shit changes....

 

I really dont think most of you realize what gm going under would do for the US economy.. you think its bad now? I personally think they should get a bail out, they should get completely new manangment and they should get rid of the unions.. The unions are a fucking joke, I cant even grasp how they let it get so out of controll

 

union= BIG problem's .

 

yep,thats what put the big 3 into the mess they are in now.if they want a bailout the union should be history.