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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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look the fact are=
they need to redeal with the uions the price per car that gm ford and chylser pay it like 25% more the the japness car copnays because they don't have to deeal with all the uions deal and cost that then is factored in the cars. but to make the cars priced with the eruo and japanees companys they use less qulity and less options to make up for it.
problem 1 uions


the cars=
ford as a example is still running on the foucus mk1.5 chassie inthe u.s but thin th uk there up to the mk3 chassie they make more mpg friendy models it the uk and the cars just better because of not having the uion problem like it the us . thats just ford gm and chysler not wanting and not have the forsight to deal with the gas and income problems that are going on is stupid. yes the make cool cars but when the maket is asking for 1.3 l civic's you can't come out with chargers and comeros with 5.9's or 6.0's. also they price out the things that people would want example making hybrids a highend onlt option on there cars and not making it on the lower car like that saturns and such(and not talking about the vue that s is one of saturns top car). the rams are cool but big with big motors very pricy and realy the only thing chryslers got !
there products problem=2


and just stupid choice's
the big three just make dumb choices and are realy slow to change in a world or vvtis vetecs mevec zetec dohc high reving small 8's 6 's turbos and super chargers they still want to make low rev old school push rod motors. not knocking that at all but come on we make steath fighter in the u.s we can't make high tech cars???!! i owned a 2 escorts and a subaru and now a mazda the escort good cars didn't feel as well put together as the mazda or subaru's my mom has a toyota ans her little van is tons better then her friend new town and country and cost less . that is stupid the big three need to jump on it and do some shit how long has the new challenger and now the camero been coming out? what about the volt that went from a cool looking sports car to a 4 door grandma car built on a saturn chassie? those cars have been been coming out four i think combined like 5 years. why? subaru says it makeing a new wrx next years its out toyota says a new camrey boom next year its out !!
problem three=bad choice's


that my take on it yes they need a bailout but with goals and rules
nothing to help the ceo's or unions. they need to redo ther product lines look into better tech and the stuff people real y want and not focusong on trends that are fast money (suv's)
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:00 PM
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o sorry about the bad spelling long day
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:31 PM
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heres my 2 cents short and sweet.

the last thing we need in this economy is another loss of jobs. over 1 million jobs are at stake. as it was stated earlier it will affect more than just automakers. that one million less people to buy goods. to build houses. it goes deeper than people see or want to see.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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this is why they are failing also ....greed and stupidity ....

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds

ABC News: Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kapone
this is why they are failing also ....greed and stupidity ....

Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds

ABC News: Big Three CEOs Flew Private Jets to Plead for Public Funds
yea i heard that too. but its no worst then the dumb shits at aig.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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Ford is getting there, Chevy is too, but everything chevy/GM has is just fucking HIDEOUS!(small cars anyways)
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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We should not have to save The Big Three's asses with our tax dollars already unwillingly taken from us for the bailout so that they can continue making shitty cars and the big execs can continue flying their private jets. That's fucking ridiculous. They deserve their demise.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I dont think most you realize what would happen if they went out of business.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:10 AM
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We cant let them go out of buissness, but no one wants to help them out, i dont want our tax dollars to help them, but if they go out, that is alot alot alot alot of people with out jobs...
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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slowly, you guys are starting to figure out how fucked we are.

Bail them out, and we revisit this soon, and we pay for it with our tax dollars

Ignore the bail out cries, we add a digit to the unemployment rate

Oh, and if you thought this was going to be the end of it, you're wrong. The airline and credit industries are next, and they will be much more expensive than this bail out and equally as imperative.
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