Do you respect bikers?
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my point is he is complaing about his bike over heating, and said bikes are hotter then cars. I proved him wrong. then someone desided to be a smart ass and mention there motor so i brought mine in to prove the point. Hate to break it to you but if a bike is in good condition and tuned right it wont run hot. theres plenty of bikes on the raod now that are fine sitting in traffic. granted they cant idle for 30-40 mintues but alot of cars cant either without the tmep going up.
I never said i got burned by my car motor. or that other bikers arnt getting burned by there motors, but ya know what. its all part of riding, you take it in stride.
I never said i got burned by my car motor. or that other bikers arnt getting burned by there motors, but ya know what. its all part of riding, you take it in stride.
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Heres more examples of drivers NOT respecting the road.
I went on a small ride yesterday.
Got on 275 north on Dalemaybry.
I was going onto the interstate,and was about to get into traffic,when I saw a red Volkswagen beetle,drivng faster than moving traffic,and in the right lane.
The car did not slow when I tried to get over,WITH my signal on.
That car did have the right of way,and I didnt want to take the chance of getting rear ended,and I know I could of got into traffic,But I would of had to haul ass to get out of its way.
So I waited and let the car pass.
It was 2 young ass chicks,and they were BOTH on cell phones.
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Today going into Largo I went from 275 to Ulmerton exit.I was going to hit 49th street over to bay side bridge.
I saw a black Honda Accord coming over to my lane.He had no signals on,and I not sure if I was in his blind spot.He didnt even bother turning his head to see if any one was next to him.
I dont depend on the bikes horn,But I couldnt of slowed down due to the car riding my ass.
So I layed on the horn and threw my left hand up like wtf?! Thats when he looked back in his rear view mirror,and got back over and put his hand up like "sorry"
I went on a small ride yesterday.
Got on 275 north on Dalemaybry.
I was going onto the interstate,and was about to get into traffic,when I saw a red Volkswagen beetle,drivng faster than moving traffic,and in the right lane.
The car did not slow when I tried to get over,WITH my signal on.
That car did have the right of way,and I didnt want to take the chance of getting rear ended,and I know I could of got into traffic,But I would of had to haul ass to get out of its way.
So I waited and let the car pass.
It was 2 young ass chicks,and they were BOTH on cell phones.
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Today going into Largo I went from 275 to Ulmerton exit.I was going to hit 49th street over to bay side bridge.
I saw a black Honda Accord coming over to my lane.He had no signals on,and I not sure if I was in his blind spot.He didnt even bother turning his head to see if any one was next to him.
I dont depend on the bikes horn,But I couldnt of slowed down due to the car riding my ass.
So I layed on the horn and threw my left hand up like wtf?! Thats when he looked back in his rear view mirror,and got back over and put his hand up like "sorry"
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Originally Posted by CrypticApathy
only if you tell it to my 2 rotor. I was refering to piston motors. if you really wanna get down to motors getting hot. Rotary > all, Rotary's get so hot you cant use alot of the stuff for exhausts and things you can for a piston engine due to them melting them. Glass breaker's first thing that comes to mind.
Still wanna argue?
Still wanna argue?
Anyway, the way my bike it set up, is radiators on the sides of the bike, and the VTWIN doesn't help because they typically run hotter. So when you're sitting still for a while and/or stuck in traffic, you have to cut the bike off because it will just keep getting hotter. So technicaly it is somewhat hard to keep the temps down unless you're moving at a decent rate of speed. You're talking about piston motors and that's all you really had to say, and nope i didnt know that the rotary tends to run really hot.. im not very familiar with those motors.
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Originally Posted by CrypticApathy
my point is he is complaing about his bike over heating, and said bikes are hotter then cars. I proved him wrong. then someone desided to be a smart ass and mention there motor so i brought mine in to prove the point. Hate to break it to you but if a bike is in good condition and tuned right it wont run hot. theres plenty of bikes on the raod now that are fine sitting in traffic. granted they cant idle for 30-40 mintues but alot of cars cant either without the tmep going up.
you think I care....why?
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Originally Posted by Decoy_TT
Yes, so because the study was done when LESS bikes on the road, it will be less true now? Your kidding right?
More cars on the road along with more bikes on the road.. Seems to me it would only make it more effective?
And what EXACTLY did I cut OUT of that article that didn't support my opinion? I just cut out alot of needless chatter about how car drivers thought it was unsafe yet the study proved otherwise.
Saying a study in done in 1981 could not hold true today is BS.. Thats like saying if they did a study in 1981 that properly inflated tires helped gas mileage (Absolutely true) was done today it would have opposite results.
Do you know how many accidents are caused by rear end collissions in stop and go traffic in this state?
So basically, what I showed you was concrete evidence that lane splitting in dead stopped traffic was marginally safer (Remember, the test group back then was smaller) then sitting in the REAR of traffic waiting to get smashed.
What you showed me was a law concerning the current law... With no supporting evidence of it being more safe. If you say its less safe to lane split in traffic, why are/were some states allowing it?
You say "Riding in between lanes can be unexpected"... Well so can being smashed from the rear from someone not paying attention in traffic. Whats your point? It goes both ways "girly".
I want you to do something... Find how many accidents have been caused "by a hand reaching out" or "a door opening" versus how many accidents have been caused by someone get smashed in the rear, or when traffic starts to move again and a car trys to change lanes forgetting there was a bike beside them (Happened to me one of the first times I rode)... I find it funny you think the safest place for a bike would be IN THE MIDDLE of a bunch of cars, rather then way in front of them. Kinda moronic IMHO.
It says "Lane sharing is USUALLY prohibited" for a reason. So you got your assignment, go find some figures on how many guys get killed by moving SLOWLY to the front of STOPPED traffic (Whether it be between the cars or along the side) or by guys getting smashed from someone in the back.
I posted a study that proved my point, you posted a the current law status? Hahaha you think that disproves me? Gimmie a fuckin' break.
More cars on the road along with more bikes on the road.. Seems to me it would only make it more effective?
And what EXACTLY did I cut OUT of that article that didn't support my opinion? I just cut out alot of needless chatter about how car drivers thought it was unsafe yet the study proved otherwise.
Saying a study in done in 1981 could not hold true today is BS.. Thats like saying if they did a study in 1981 that properly inflated tires helped gas mileage (Absolutely true) was done today it would have opposite results.
Do you know how many accidents are caused by rear end collissions in stop and go traffic in this state?
So basically, what I showed you was concrete evidence that lane splitting in dead stopped traffic was marginally safer (Remember, the test group back then was smaller) then sitting in the REAR of traffic waiting to get smashed.
What you showed me was a law concerning the current law... With no supporting evidence of it being more safe. If you say its less safe to lane split in traffic, why are/were some states allowing it?
You say "Riding in between lanes can be unexpected"... Well so can being smashed from the rear from someone not paying attention in traffic. Whats your point? It goes both ways "girly".
I want you to do something... Find how many accidents have been caused "by a hand reaching out" or "a door opening" versus how many accidents have been caused by someone get smashed in the rear, or when traffic starts to move again and a car trys to change lanes forgetting there was a bike beside them (Happened to me one of the first times I rode)... I find it funny you think the safest place for a bike would be IN THE MIDDLE of a bunch of cars, rather then way in front of them. Kinda moronic IMHO.
It says "Lane sharing is USUALLY prohibited" for a reason. So you got your assignment, go find some figures on how many guys get killed by moving SLOWLY to the front of STOPPED traffic (Whether it be between the cars or along the side) or by guys getting smashed from someone in the back.
I posted a study that proved my point, you posted a the current law status? Hahaha you think that disproves me? Gimmie a fuckin' break.
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Originally Posted by CrypticApathy
only if you tell it to my 2 rotor. I was refering to piston motors. if you really wanna get down to motors getting hot. Rotary > all, Rotary's get so hot you cant use alot of the stuff for exhausts and things you can for a piston engine due to them melting them. Glass breaker's first thing that comes to mind.
Still wanna argue?
Under hood temps in normally aspirated rotaries run upwards of 400°, above 600° in the turbos.
To quote C4 on page 2
Im running almost 3 times hotter then you are.
Still wanna argue?
Under hood temps in normally aspirated rotaries run upwards of 400°, above 600° in the turbos.
To quote C4 on page 2
Im running almost 3 times hotter then you are.
Install a gauge that reads temp in numbers,and you will see where you are at.
About the same as a bike,BUT protected by the heat.
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Originally Posted by sportsbikegurly
I think you disproved yourself the second you started typing. No point in me having a battle of the wits with an unarmed man.
Didn't manage to rebuttal a single thing I said. Your funny.
ME: A study in 1981 shows that 1+1 = 2
YOU: No thats totally false it was done in 1981.
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Originally Posted by Decoy_TT
I believe he said they overheat more then cars, which is true. Cars usually reach their normal operation temperature and sit there for the most part. A bike on the other hand varies a ton in hot weather for a crap load of the bikes out there. A bike cools off a great deal while driving, cars cool off a little sure, but they have engine components that keep them cooler which bikes don't.
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Originally Posted by Rotary7
Hes talking about water/engine temp,not exhaust.
Install a gauge that reads temp in numbers,and you will see where you are at.
About the same as a bike,BUT protected by the heat.
Install a gauge that reads temp in numbers,and you will see where you are at.
About the same as a bike,BUT protected by the heat.
A bike cools off a great deal while driving, cars cool off a little sure, but they have engine components that keep them cooler which bikes don't.
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Driving definitions: Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and Torque is how far you take the wall with you.
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