wow, nice post... to shit on.

i do know whats invloved, and there is a huge gap between price from most places, and price from colin. i never knocked him as a builder, or as a mechanic, because i know noone really can. his price is a little more than a little high. The highest install/wiring job price I've ever seen was 550 for install with basic vtec wiring, or 100-200 for wiring, a far cry from '6-750 + 100-300'. A skunk2 chip can be had for 25 bucks or less... whoever charges more than 25 bucks for soldering on a chip, while making all that additional money on wiring and install... is rediculous.

on top of this, im pretty sure the honda folks that know what theyre talking about that agreed with me arent stupid, especially when one of them had a motor swap done by colin; and it doesnt take a genius to pay attention to pricing averages and recognize a gaping difference.

 

it states 4100 for the b18cR but could go up to 4950 depending on the year. Somehow in your dogmatic post, you forgot the price of shipping. You also neglect the price of another ecu; of course you would know that you can't run a OBD2 ecu on a OBD1 car. Of course, you would know if he includes timing belt, etc...in the swap. What I'm saying is you don't know exactly everything that is included in the price of the swap; until you do, you can't really state your opinion on the price with incomplete info.

I don't know nor do I care what the average prices are because I do my own work. However, I do know you need to have complete information before you make any Assumptions. What I don't know is what is it about Hondas that attract so many morons.

 

blah blah blah morons blah blah... waah.

timing belt is cheap. plugs are cheap. wires are cheap. p28s go for 100-125. shipping is 250-300. if its shipped as a single, and not in a batch.

don't talk like I dont know what I'm talking about asshole, you're mistaken. I may not own a 10 year old shop, but I do know my way around a b series and the eg chassis, among other combinations.

the point of the post is, regardless, even with a 1000$ variation, for price of motor, parts, night of coke and hookers for the builder, whatever- its still far more than average.

 

Well, I guess a persistent moron is better than a non-persistent one.

You must really know your way around Hondas when you are an expert on prices shops charge. Are you the idiot Nick that most people on tr was dogging for being a ricer a little while ago? You sure provided valuable entertainment.

You expect average prices for average quality labor.......
I'm finished.

 

since when does stating facts make me a moron?

i guess secret services was an average shop, i guess neal is an average shop owner... because those prices were loosely based on thiers. and ive seen KILLER work out of both of them.

and as far as the name, youve been a member as long as I've had a truck... so ricer, no. there are quite a few Nicks on the board.

 

Colin is busy enough he can charge what ever he wants to. He can chose what he wants to do and how much. His work is top notch and you get what you pay for. Yes there are cheaper places to get it done but thats up to who you feel comfortable with and trust working on your car.

 

thats why i said nothing against him, and meant it- i know he has paid his dues far beyond most others- and can charge what he wants, since he can afford to do it. i, sure his shop is packed, i only mentioned it because its quite a bit of loot for the job, incase the original poster didnt shop around... id hope we, as a racing community, would help make users aware of all options.

 

Im not one to really chime in and dog someones shop but.... 7k is WAY to much. motor Swap/Changeovers from HMotors comes with ALL mounts ALL Linkages and ALL wireing Harness's and YOUR CHOICE of ECU. And if you arnt a puss you can talk them down on the price of their swaps. I know this from experince. They wanna sell the swap they will with whatever it takes. But a swap might take you 8 hours tops from start to finish. Ive done These types of swaps in one day With wireing and ive never charged that high. Id say MAYBE 5k 5500 if everything is brand new. Screw that chip for the price hes charging run a VFAC or get the right ECM for that engine (HMotors Supplies whichever you choose) as for the wiring he can get a OBD1 Si or GSR engine harness cheap and guess what plug and play change a few sensors blamo Swap done. Hoses, Belts plugs wires etc would cost you about 60-70$ i know i just replaced them all.

I dont care who you are or how good everyone says you are its bussiness.. Be competetive, Its not a magic swap but that price it better have a Golden Valve Cover ! I Say shop around you can find cheaper, I know people that will come to your house and do it and want a 6pack. I built a kids GSR in his garage after work everyday and i charged him 1k it took me 4 days with machining time. Iunno me personally wouldnt pay 7k for a installed swap !

 

Great guy, great work, and fucking awesome reputation. Price seems high, but I'm oldskool. It could include all sorts of minor fixens. Then again...the customer could have given the impression of being a total chode and Colin might not have wanted to do the work. That doesn't sound like him though.

-Neil