[puts on flame retardant suit]


Well congrats to you guys. you have your own forum now, and no sarcasm (yes thats hard to believe), i think it will be good for you guys.


However, I see that it has been grouped in with forums for REAL forms of racing. yet it is not. even the "D1 grand prix" isnt racing. The REAL forms of racing all have one thing in common...time. time is your worst enemy. you want to be able to make it a set distance in less time than anyone else. the only exception to this in endurance racing where it is kinda opposite...most distance possible in a set amount of time. this is the thing that makes racing in my mind...being able to be QUANTIFIABLY better than the next guy. whether that is by 3 seconds or by 3 laps. there is a quantifiable difference between you and the other guy. and at the end of the day you cal look at the guy you beat and say....i was better/faster than you today and here is the proof.

Drifitng on the otherhand has no quantifiable entity. it's all about who looks better, or who the judges like better. i mean it's basically figureskating or synchronized swimming...but with cars. i mean if you really look at drifting it's just another socialistic trash sport where "everyone can compete" and "everyone can do well" that's crap. real competitions are about who can get there first, or can score the most runs. but it seems you guys are completely content to allow some god-like judges tell you who is better. i mean it's a giant popularity contest.

What are the things that would even be quantifiable if you wanted to make drifing REAL racing?

who can get around the track faster? well then no one would drift they would all be driving the appropriate line to go faster.

Who can bur their tires down to the cords faster? nope...then it would just be a burnout contest where people would just sit there and do revlimit, 5th gear burnouts till the tires pop.

Who can wreck their car faster? i can only imagine thatwoudl just result in people drivign their cars into the nearest wall (dale style) at the drop of the green.


So how bout it drifters? what makes your hobby so great? because form my point of view it just seems liek a good way to wreck your car, burn up tyres, and never get any proof to show someone that you owned their ass.

 

Drifting is not racing.

it's motorsport.


so does it truly belong in the racing forum? maybe not. maybe it should be renamed the motorsport forum?

amnybe the title should be ' the motorsport of going sideways intead of art' ?? who knows.
but yes, scott, you're correct in that it's not a race per say.
but if you lose the other guy in D1 , and he cant lose you, then you win.

 

I know back in the day, before everyone became a "h4rdc0r3 Drifter s0n" I used to fuck around in parking lots weather it was with RWD or FWD with Trays under the rear tires.

So in conclusion, i see it more as a "im bored, lets go fuck around in a parking lot" or "lets take cars that would normally be nothing in a speed contest, and show off with them"

No disespect was meant by this post, just my intepretation of the situation (god i love outkast)

 

drifting is one of motor sports. it's just not go by numbers. you need to have angle, speed, sound, smoke from tires, etc.

 

its probally not best to say drifting is "racing" it really isnt , its about style , judging .

it is a motorsport yes , that would be a better term imo than "racing" although usually if you are passed in a d1 comp you loose basically . its the ultimate form of being a better drifter if you get passed by the person behind you .

 

you see here's where all the confusion comes in. so if you get passed you loose...but you have to have good style in not getting passed? so if i were the trailing car...and i decided to run better tyres, a grip suspension setup and just drive past the lead car...with no drift would i win?

If yes, then whats the point of having the judges and the drifting?

If no, then why should it matter if you pass the guy?

OR what if i were the lead car, with the best grip setup adn the most power, and just drove away from all the dr1f+3R's ...would i get the win?

and even then, that is just one specialized type of drift event are all drift events setup like the D1 races or do they have different judging criteria.

it's all a very silly to me...

 

point of this thread is ?

 

having a higher entry speed while sideways usually allows you to pass the person in front of you if they are sliding as well . if you can hold the drift at a higher speed and pass the person in front you usually are considered better/the winner because of the ability to maintain a higher slip angle at a higher speed .


if you gripped the track that would be a time trial its not . i see no time clocks in drifting , its not somethign everyone likes , it is something i do .


you do what you want ill do what i want

 

well you must pass the lead person using the same style and technique as he is doing.... aka both of you doing manji..... clutch drag... whatever... the drift angles have to be similar.....


SO its not racing, so lets rename the sub group to "Legalized Motorsports" once we get the ST.Pete event set up, cause then all of this forum is legalized automotive events.........