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Originally posted by GTi-R B13
vettes are garbage unless its a Z06
they werent ever a challenge for my car.
vettes are garbage unless its a Z06
they werent ever a challenge for my car.
Trap speed indicates power. Plan and simple. If u have two cars and x car traps 100mph and y car traps 110 well then the y car will win from a roll. What is the trap speed of the civic? -Mark
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*sigh*.. a really good 60 ft wont affect your trap speed.. take for example the wRX.. a good 1.80 60 ft will allow it to run a 12.9@103 where as other cars such as my mach 1 trap higher.. but run a lower ET..
trap speed is a direct result of the power to weight ration of the car.. and takes in to effect all the crap you mentioned above.. trap speed is why kens supras 11.6 @130 was so damn impresive.. trapping at 130 means your makin quite a bit of power..
on the street.. generally.. in an even situation.. the car with the higher trap speed will have the better power to weight ratio.. and *should* pull the other car from a roll.. factors such as driver etc will vary this..
trap speed is a direct result of the power to weight ration of the car.. and takes in to effect all the crap you mentioned above.. trap speed is why kens supras 11.6 @130 was so damn impresive.. trapping at 130 means your makin quite a bit of power..
on the street.. generally.. in an even situation.. the car with the higher trap speed will have the better power to weight ratio.. and *should* pull the other car from a roll.. factors such as driver etc will vary this..
Stock C5's 1997-2003 are capable of low to mid 13's depending on driver and setup.
They are very light, aerodynamic, and fast even in the hands of an unskilled driver.
The Z06's are a mid 12-low 13 second cars and are all 6 spd manuals.
Most stock C5's in an average skilled 6 spd driver are capable of generating 0-60's in the high 4-second range, standing quarter in the 13.4's at 107-108 mph. That is only part of the story though-the untold other half is the C5's ability to hit 150 mph in around 30 seconds and in roughly a mile-from a dead stop. These cars pull fiercly above 100 mph and are glued to the road up past 170+
My "Garbage Non Z06" car with bolt on cold intake/full length exhaust (with high flow cats) makes roughly 390-400 flywheel hp and 390-400lbs of torque, capable of high 12's at 112mph and gets 30 mpg at freeway speeds. It will reach 150 in less than 30 seconds & less than a mile
Most imports stay away, and the only ones who ever put up a fight was a completely modded TT RX7 (spun through 1st & 2nd on useless Good Year runflats-and still beat him by 1/2 car and pulling him more through 4rth) and a completely modded TT 300zx (walked away from him by two cars++).
Most imports, unless they have serious power adders (NOS/Turbos/completely rebuilt race engine) are not much of a match for Chevy or Ford V-8's.
They are very light, aerodynamic, and fast even in the hands of an unskilled driver.
The Z06's are a mid 12-low 13 second cars and are all 6 spd manuals.
Most stock C5's in an average skilled 6 spd driver are capable of generating 0-60's in the high 4-second range, standing quarter in the 13.4's at 107-108 mph. That is only part of the story though-the untold other half is the C5's ability to hit 150 mph in around 30 seconds and in roughly a mile-from a dead stop. These cars pull fiercly above 100 mph and are glued to the road up past 170+
My "Garbage Non Z06" car with bolt on cold intake/full length exhaust (with high flow cats) makes roughly 390-400 flywheel hp and 390-400lbs of torque, capable of high 12's at 112mph and gets 30 mpg at freeway speeds. It will reach 150 in less than 30 seconds & less than a mile
Most imports stay away, and the only ones who ever put up a fight was a completely modded TT RX7 (spun through 1st & 2nd on useless Good Year runflats-and still beat him by 1/2 car and pulling him more through 4rth) and a completely modded TT 300zx (walked away from him by two cars++).
Most imports, unless they have serious power adders (NOS/Turbos/completely rebuilt race engine) are not much of a match for Chevy or Ford V-8's.
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2001 MagRed 6-spd. Full Intake/Exhaust, CCW 18 inch 275/335 Viper Pilots. Est. 400+/- flywheel HP
Originally posted by GTi-R B13
vettes are garbage unless its a Z06
they werent ever a challenge for my car.
vettes are garbage unless its a Z06
they werent ever a challenge for my car.
a vette however, ran 12's yesterday, today, and will agian tomorrow.
thats the big difference between a vette and your car
Originally posted by 2qk4u
and c5 vettes run 13.5-13.8 and that is right from motortrend.
so i dont know where u get this low 13 shit
and c5 vettes run 13.5-13.8 and that is right from motortrend.
so i dont know where u get this low 13 shit
Keep in mind that it is a '99 C5. In '01 HP & TQ were increased. Additionally the TQ curve of '01 & up shows that the peak TQ increased over a broader RPM range. All too many people focus in on the peak HP & TQ; what is more critical is the available power over the full RPM range.
I read the original post with some amusement. I think the movie Fast & Furious has gone to some heads. Further, I travel to FLA on business frequently & have seen a significant number of wannabees there, much more than we see around here. When I drive the Vette I have had quite a few 4-bangers pushing a run, frequently in congested areas.
Any car can be made to go fast & I do appreciate whenever someone pushes the performance of their car. Just know your limits & play safe!!! BTW there are quite a few Vette drivers who do not push their cars, nor do they really know how to drive. So be kind to those old guys.
Originally posted by 2qk4u
wow, there are so many more factors than that.
gear ratios,auto or stick,weight of cars, and VTEC the civic will go up to 8600 prob alot more shit than that
wow, there are so many more factors than that.
gear ratios,auto or stick,weight of cars, and VTEC the civic will go up to 8600 prob alot more shit than that
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