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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by The real Roadrunner
A wrx don't stand a chance in hell of beating a viper... Now if you had said (i raced a srt4) i think you might of had a chance....maybe...
SRT-4 vs WRX sounds more like it. Either vs a Viper is comical.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 02:59 AM
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Originally posted by onesweetZ06
SRT-4 vs WRX sounds more like it. Either vs a Viper is comical.
I love these threads, because they always break down to "did the other guy know he was racing" or "he was just playing with you". Assuming this guy is stock and in a 1996 Viper, he was making 450bhp and weighing in at a relatively portly 3400+lbs. Power to weight ratio: 7.55555(lb):1(hp). Billy's car weighs just over 3000lbs wet and his little 4 banger is making a hair under 400bhp, assuming the accepted 26% AWD drivetrain loss standard is accurate for our cars. Power to weight ratio: 7.5:1. He also has very aggressive gearing, which helps 0-100mph acceleration quite a bit. So why couldn't he hang with a stock Viper RT-10 again??

I can run with a stock Z06 to ~100mph and my car is about 10bhp short of Billy's. These arguments always end up going because people just fail to consider the physics involved. I like the big American mullet-muscle machines, but there are certainly rice burners out there that can run with them. This straightline stuff is all good, but I'd really, really, really love to race a stock Z06 or Viper through some heavy twisties...because any idiot can go fast in a straight line.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by Chuck 98 RT/10
LOL trash talkin', makes the day interesting.

The worst thing about a Viper is at 450hp ('03 500hp) it only runs in the 12.0-12.3 range and there's nothing you can do about it. You can't put SC, turbos or nitrous on them. You can't change the suspensions or wheels. You can't put headers on them or intakes or do any head work. There is absolutely nothing you can do to that 488cid ('03 505cid) V10 to make it go faster. And of course we all know 12.0@120mph aint fast.

Oh and top end? It takes forever to reach 186mph.

So if you ever see a Viper run faster than 12.0 it probably has a Chevy motor...or a VTEC.

Thank you!!!
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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He can't hang because the insecure Z06 owner said so!!
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:09 AM
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Now, if we could just find somebody with a stock RT/10...

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TampaWRX, you wanna chase a Viper around some twisties? You're in luck. I'll be at Sebring Dec13. Sign up at www.SAFEMotorsports.com and have some fun.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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Chuck, you know that isn't even fair. Not a one WRX owner would sign up for that. Besides, you can't drive those vipers of yours anyway.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by TampaWRX
I can run with a stock Z06 to ~100mph and my car is about 10bhp short of Billy's.but I'd really, really, really love to race a tock Z06 or Viper through some heavy twisties.
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I'll give you a shot against my Z06 either way you want it
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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James, where are you going to get a stock Z06?
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by 98MODMTR
Besides, you can't drive those vipers of yours anyway.
Yeah I know Jayson. I'd get my ass handed to me. I just can't seem to take turn 17 any higher than 3rd gear.
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