Whats the best/ cheapest ($) turbo..
Originally posted by China
on a h22 or a b18 im sure you can get that kind of power for about the same price. the mitsubishi's are mostly 2.0 dohc or the vr4 that is a 3.0. when you think honda dont automatically think of the b16, the ls engines and even the b20 engines are quality.
if you have a person who knows what he/she is doing, you will be able to blow any stock turbocharged dsm out of the water.
china
on a h22 or a b18 im sure you can get that kind of power for about the same price. the mitsubishi's are mostly 2.0 dohc or the vr4 that is a 3.0. when you think honda dont automatically think of the b16, the ls engines and even the b20 engines are quality.
if you have a person who knows what he/she is doing, you will be able to blow any stock turbocharged dsm out of the water.
china
As for the neon comment,
, i can't agree with you more, but i was just talking about what was under the hood. Mitsubishi, Mopar, whatever the hell that thing is, its impressive. Back on topic - Volcom, just because you don't drive a factory-turbocharged car like we've been discussing, doesn't mean your car won't be plenty fast and reliable with a turbo setup on your stock motor. It's just that once you have your turbo setup and a year goes by and the thrill starts to fade and you want more power, you are gonna have to take that baby apart and start a huge upgrading project, whereas the factory-turbo owner, just needs to change some bolt-ons and he's seeing more power. In short, the upgrade path is alot simpler for the factory-turbo car.
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Originally posted by FlatFour
I don't wanna go off topic again, but i've still gotta disagree with this post. First off, I thought h22's and b20's were both not good bottom-ends for boost applications? Second, the most boost you will ever run on a stock bottom end honda reliably would prob be 12psi. A factory-turbocharged dsm bottom-end will prob hold 20+. Even with the higher compression on the stock honda pistons, i don't see a comparison. I think i've heard of dsm's breaking into the 11's on the stock turbo, this is just an impossible feat for a stock honda bottom-end.
As for the neon comment,
, i can't agree with you more, but i was just talking about what was under the hood. Mitsubishi, Mopar, whatever the hell that thing is, its impressive.
Back on topic - Volcom, just because you don't drive a factory-turbocharged car like we've been discussing, doesn't mean your car won't be plenty fast and reliable with a turbo setup on your stock motor. It's just that once you have your turbo setup and a year goes by and the thrill starts to fade and you want more power, you are gonna have to take that baby apart and start a huge upgrading project, whereas the factory-turbo owner, just needs to change some bolt-ons and he's seeing more power. In short, the upgrade path is alot simpler for the factory-turbo car.
I don't wanna go off topic again, but i've still gotta disagree with this post. First off, I thought h22's and b20's were both not good bottom-ends for boost applications? Second, the most boost you will ever run on a stock bottom end honda reliably would prob be 12psi. A factory-turbocharged dsm bottom-end will prob hold 20+. Even with the higher compression on the stock honda pistons, i don't see a comparison. I think i've heard of dsm's breaking into the 11's on the stock turbo, this is just an impossible feat for a stock honda bottom-end.
As for the neon comment,
, i can't agree with you more, but i was just talking about what was under the hood. Mitsubishi, Mopar, whatever the hell that thing is, its impressive. Back on topic - Volcom, just because you don't drive a factory-turbocharged car like we've been discussing, doesn't mean your car won't be plenty fast and reliable with a turbo setup on your stock motor. It's just that once you have your turbo setup and a year goes by and the thrill starts to fade and you want more power, you are gonna have to take that baby apart and start a huge upgrading project, whereas the factory-turbo owner, just needs to change some bolt-ons and he's seeing more power. In short, the upgrade path is alot simpler for the factory-turbo car.
china
Originally posted by FlatFour
Back on topic - Volcom, just because you don't drive a factory-turbocharged car like we've been discussing, doesn't mean your car won't be plenty fast and reliable with a turbo setup on your stock motor. It's just that once you have your turbo setup and a year goes by and the thrill starts to fade and you want more power, you are gonna have to take that baby apart and start a huge upgrading project, whereas the factory-turbo owner, just needs to change some bolt-ons and he's seeing more power. In short, the upgrade path is alot simpler for the factory-turbo car.
Back on topic - Volcom, just because you don't drive a factory-turbocharged car like we've been discussing, doesn't mean your car won't be plenty fast and reliable with a turbo setup on your stock motor. It's just that once you have your turbo setup and a year goes by and the thrill starts to fade and you want more power, you are gonna have to take that baby apart and start a huge upgrading project, whereas the factory-turbo owner, just needs to change some bolt-ons and he's seeing more power. In short, the upgrade path is alot simpler for the factory-turbo car.
I am in the same situation stock b16 and putting together a turbo kit with the right parts. and I know the need fpr speed will increase later but thats why I plan on keeping my current motor with stock bottom end and I will stand build a different b16 block. this way I will keep a daily driver and still be able to work on my car, and in the end I'll have one hell of an engine that is a straight swap out when its all ready
yes money is an issue but don't cut corners it is cheaper to do it right the first time. I could've had my turbo on a while ago if I went cheap but I am going for top quality where it counts and budget quality where it doesn't. so I am stiol a few months from getting it all, but when its done I won't worry about a thing except speeding tickets.
" agree its a huge bag when you can say you are running 700hp in your camaro. but to me its an even bigger brag when you can say you run 500hp in your hatchback, on half the engine, twice the fuel economy, and beat the camaro in the 1/4." -Kender
I highly doubt a 500 hp anything is going to get anywhere close to decent let anlone good gas mileage.
I highly doubt a 500 hp anything is going to get anywhere close to decent let anlone good gas mileage.
aside from the E-pissing match thats gone on in here I cant see where the actualquestion was answered. Volcom there are some people in here who actually do have turbo and will help you with what you need all you have to do is ask them. Look in the for sale forums and you may find a turbo setup for sale. If not research turbo manufacters, there are alot of bolt on kits especially for the Si Civic's. Everyone seems to agree on 1 thing and I will concur on that, do it right the first time! If you wanna do a daily driver that has a little pep go wih a simple setup that is practicul but still puts down the ponies. Just be smart about ti and dont rush. The first time is the right way to do it!
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