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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Epstein
Are you saying that sohc lines will bolt up to an S14KA compressor? I don't think that's the case.

Also, what is your recommendation to get the clutch/pulley off of a compressor without wrecking it. I tried once. It wasn't pretty or successful.

Nope, im saying that dual cam lines bolt up to a S14 compressor, in an S13, on an SR, thats why I quoted tim when he said this guy needed lines also.

I believe there is a tool for it, but I just tore up the S14 clutch plate removing it since I wasnt removing it, the S13 one cooperated, probably got scared after seeing what I did to the S14 one.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28ricer
Nope, im saying that dual cam lines bolt up to a S14 compressor, in an S13, on an SR, thats why I quoted tim when he said this guy needed lines also.

I believe there is a tool for it, but I just tore up the S14 clutch plate removing it since I wasnt removing it, the S13 one cooperated, probably got scared after seeing what I did to the S14 one.
ahh I see about the lines.

Nissan specs a specific tool to remove the clutch the, ahem, right way. But, none of the tool loaner places have it. Hell, I bet Lokey doesn't even have one. All I know is a 3-leg puller and a hammer is neither good nor effective! haha

At the end of the day, if you're getting lines made that kind of spoils it. You know how many custom lines I've destroyed over the years? It's not fun. That's why my last 2 itterations used the Codyace brackets.

Yeah, the 2-bolt solution (for qualifying setups) sounds sketchy, but you've got to remember that it was THE way to do it 6-8 years ago. And in that time, I've never heard of anyone having an issue with it. And that's the real test.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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I know for a fact that an S14 KA comp will not bolt up to an S14 SR bracket. I had to use the SR comp for my A/C swap. I also wasn't "ok" with using just two bolts to secure the AC comp to the side of my engine.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr_SS
I know for a fact that an S14 KA comp will not bolt up to an S14 SR bracket. I had to use the SR comp for my A/C swap. I also wasn't "ok" with using just two bolts to secure the AC comp to the side of my engine.

Epstein comment on this one, I thought the brackets were all the same on the compressor side and different on the block ? Or is it the other way around.

I know I had a S14 KA compressor bolted to a S13 SR bracket.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28ricer
Epstein comment on this one, I thought the brackets were all the same on the compressor side and different on the block ? Or is it the other way around.

I know I had a S14 KA compressor bolted to a S13 SR bracket.
I am almost certain that the S13 SR bracket is different than the S14 SR's bracket. But, hopefully he'll reply.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jr_SS
I am almost certain that the S13 SR bracket is different than the S14 SR's bracket. But, hopefully he'll reply.

I know they are different, I just thought I saw him post before that the difference was on the block side, like all sr brackets are the same for the comp to bolt to, but different in that you need the correct one for your block, its very possible its the other way around.

Epstein, what you mean about the lines ? With what I'm referring to you retain stock KADE lines, no custom lines needed.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Among SR brackets, there are 2. The redtop and blacktop. S13 Redtop has a redtop bracket. S13 Blacktop has a blacktop bracket. Late S13 with the screwy compressor has the same blacktop bracket. The S14SR bracket is the blacktop as well. These are all interchangeable on the block side. I'm running a redtop bracket on my S14 SR.

I've seen an S13KA compressor on a redtop bracket; the so-called 2-bolt solution. The 2 bolts that don't line up are varying degrees of not-close, IIRC. The S14KA compressor against this redtop bracket is VERY close. I didn't try it, but it looks like a dead bolt on with perfect hole alignment. This "bolt on" ignores the different pulleys that make it actually not work.

I've never seen anything bolt on to a blacktop bracket that wasn't a blacktop compressor.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Epstein
Among SR brackets, there are 2. The redtop and blacktop. S13 Redtop has a redtop bracket. S13 Blacktop has a blacktop bracket. Late S13 with the screwy compressor has the same blacktop bracket. The S14SR bracket is the blacktop as well. These are all interchangeable on the block side. I'm running a redtop bracket on my S14 SR.

I've seen an S13KA compressor on a redtop bracket; the so-called 2-bolt solution. The 2 bolts that don't line up are varying degrees of not-close, IIRC. The S14KA compressor against this redtop bracket is VERY close. I didn't try it, but it looks like a dead bolt on with perfect hole alignment. This "bolt on" ignores the different pulleys that make it actually not work.

I've never seen anything bolt on to a blacktop bracket that wasn't a blacktop compressor.
The S14KA compressor on redtop bracket is what I did then, swap the pulley from an S13 KADE compressor, use the S14 bearing from its pulley, bolts on, all 4 bolts and a/c lines boltup.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28ricer
Before you go trying to say something wont work, go bolt a S14 compressor, to a SR a/c bracket, after you are done realizing that "oh shit, it does in fact bolt up with all four bolts, and the a/c lines will bolt up", then go take a look at the S14 compressor and an S13 DE compressor and go "hmmm hey the pulley looks like it would fix the only problem I see now, the belt not lining up" then actually do like I said, and play the swap game.

If you havent done it, dont try to say it wont work, just because you didnt figure it out already, again doesnt mean it wont work, oh ooops not everyone has already done everything SR, go figure.
?? when did I say anything about a s14 compressor not fitting a s13 bracket... ?? we were doing that like 5 years ago at xat... i still have like 14414i239283498 clutches still left over from this trick..


my post simply stated that 1989-1990 chassies have really really different lines that do not bolt up to any compressor on the list... you always have to weld when using these lines. those compressors bolt vertically through the bottom and horizontally... through ears... from the front and rear.



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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 180SX
?? when did I say anything about a s14 compressor not fitting a s13 bracket... ?? we were doing that like 5 years ago at xat... i still have like 14414i239283498 clutches still left over from this trick..


my post simply stated that 1989-1990 chassies have really really different lines that do not bolt up to any compressor on the list... you always have to weld when using these lines. those compressors bolt vertically through the bottom and horizontally... through ears... from the front and rear.



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Needing DOHC stuff was posted long before your post, so it was very unclear what you were stating wouldnt work.
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