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how easy is the 2jzgte to work with? compared to a KA24DET

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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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I can time a KA, I have done it many times. And doing a swap is not so difficult with a kit. Timming a ka and wiring blows. It has a idler sprocket, 3 fucking timing chains and is a PITA to time and is easy to get off a tooth. and ka's ALWAYs have problems. 90% of post are ka issues. just because you guys are very experienced with engines dosent mean that lots of other people dont have the esiest time with timming a ka. Lots of people I talk to do not like timming them experienced and non. I will never take my car to a shop other than tuning. I like trying to solve my own issues so I learn. I honestly have done the ka thing for a WHILE, its been fun but I dont feel that is "my" engine if you know what Im saying. I really want to get info on the cons before "bandwagon" this shit. I liek the 2jzgte because all the internals are forged on the bottom end, not because its a "cool" swap,a nd was built for boost. tell me negatives about it.
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed cat
and ka's ALWAYs have problems.
no they dont. you fucking hater.
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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if you tell me your ka has not had more than 1 problem then you are fucking lying.You would be the first person ive talked to that has not had problems with their ka. and I don't hate ka's Ive had mine for like 5 years and Ive helped build a ton, lots of dohc swaps. I didnt say they were shitty motors because their not. I am no longer intrested in them. I hate sr's and I want to know about 2jzgte and possibly vq and rb's.
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It's timing. Not timming.

And 2j negatives? It came in a different make of car? For someone who thinks setting timing and wiring on a KA is difficult, you don't need to be swapping engines from another Nissan car, much less another manufacturer.

Bring your "fairly decent sum of money" to a shop and let them build a nice SR20 for you. There's absolutely nothing wrong with an SR. Quit trying to be different, you're just like everyone else. There is nothing new you can accomplish with an S13.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed cat
if you tell me your ka has not had more than 1 problem then you are fucking lying.You would be the first person ive talked to that has not had problems with their ka. and I don't hate ka's Ive had mine for like 5 years and Ive helped build a ton, lots of dohc swaps. I didnt say they were shitty motors because their not. I am no longer intrested in them. I hate sr's and I want to know about 2jzgte and possibly vq and rb's.
Yeah, my 205k mile KA had a bad alternator at 186k. Other than that it was perfect.

The people that have problems with KA's are people who shouldnt be working on cars or the ones who bought other peoples hack job peices of shit.

Seriously, if you think the timing chain set up on a KA is difficult how do you epect to fair with a twin turbo inline 6? I'm not betting on you coming out on top in that fight.

You hate SR's because?

Google will tell all if you ask it nicely. From what I've heard its free too!
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Everyone throwing around all of these "never's" need to cool it. KA's have problems because they're old, every 240sx had one at one point, and not everyone is a Nissan certified tech.

I still don't get the problem with KA timing. You time the cams once. That's it. If you're doing a million cam swaps, ziptie the sprockets to the chain so you don't have to deal with it.

As far as wiring, the KA is not different than any other motor. Done.

Yeah, a 2JZ is going to be a pretty low maintenance setup. Strap on whatever turbo, tune it with whatever you've got and rock out. You'll probably never need to open the motor unless you have a mechanical failure.

Cons: It's heavy. Really heavy. Like, the difference in weight between an Altezza (4-cyl, 6speed) and IS300 (2JZ and 6-speed) is something like 350 pounds, all other things equal. ...and the Altezza's 4-cyl has an iron block. Exhaust comes out the other side of the motor, which is only different and not bad. Packaging in a straight 6 is always an issue. And unless you do a turbo upgrade, some one in a 50-trim KA is going to blow past you. Oh the irony, if that happens.

If you have the cash, go for it. It can't be that hard.
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:48 AM
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lol irony ftw. cars have issues whether you like it or not, cars are like women. timing should not be a major issue... why do you feel it would be easier on a non ka? that doesn't make much sense.
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y issue with someone posting a thread like this asking pros and cons is the fact that you won't swap your ka for anything. If you are too lazy to do research on things that have been covered a zillions times you are most certainly too lazy to swap a bastard motor.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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I didnt even think of zip tying the sprockets to the chain. thats a good idea. and Its liek this. blame me for the problems with my engine, but I will fix one problem and something else fucking craps out on this engine. I love my ka, I hate fixing shit every week. I dunno. maybe I should just get a aftermarket plenum, oil pump and rebuild the head compleatly and bottom end. no one around here knows dick about ka's or timing so its been diffcult. you ugys
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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you serious? nobody knows about the ka's? who cares if local people know? look on the interwebz, that is what its for. durkadurr. I am thinkin that you should stick with your stock car, things will only get more annoying as you further modify the car.
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