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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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I plan on a LS1 swap once I start in the service, since I won't be in Florida I'll have to do it myself. Oh well I found sites that sell the mounts, harness, motor, tranny, and custom driveshafts for an LSX. I'll make sure to post pics once I complete it.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Interesting FAQ i found

How much will the car weigh?
We have not weighed the converted S13 in stock form yet. However, the specs should be very close to the S14 information listed below.

The aluminum GM LS1 and LS6 engines are extremely light power plants. With the complete removal of the KA engine and transmission, the project car's final weight is less than the total gross vehicle weight of a stock Nissan 240SX. The LS1 T56 combo is 128 pounds lighter than the KA four cylinder it replaces.

The final weight of the car is listed below. The car weighed 2,742lbs with a full interior and atleast a 1/4 tank of gas. This results in a F/R ratio of 56%/44%.
LF: 737
RF: 815
Total Front: 1,552 lbs
LR: 620
RR: 570
Total Rear: 1,190 lbs


How will it handle?

The converted car should handle better than the stock car due to the weight reduction. Our customers should expect their vehicles to handle just atleast as well as it did prior to the install.
How fast is the car?

Depending on the level of engine modification, our customers should expect even a stock LS1 conversion to perform better than a C5 Corvette Z06. All of this for less than 1/4 the cost. Most of our stock LS1 240s will run between an 11.9-12.5 second 1/4 mile pass. The range is based on track conditions and driver ability.
Our shop car has gone through a wide range of performance parts. Be sure to check out our media section for videos. We've built everything from 11 second daily drivers to our soon to hit the track 7 second RX7 monster. Stay tuned for progress on our shop S14 240.
How difficult is the conversion?

We have gone through great measures to build custom pieces for the 240SX. Our engine subsystems (cooling, fuel, hydraulics, etc) are built specificly for your model year, and the installation is very intuitive. However, we will provide instructions for parts that need explanation, and we are also available for phone and email technical support.
How much will it cost Hinson Super Cars to complete the conversion for me?

The cost for turn key cars is discussed here. Please review the page for your turn-key construction questions.
Where can I find an engine and transmission?

New and used engines and transmissions can be bought through HinsonSuperCars.com. Alternative sources are the classifieds section of LS1.com, LS1tech.com, and EBay.
Will I still be able to have air conditioning?

A/C is available on turnkey cars as an option. We do not offer mail order A/C services because the high possibility of damage to the lines during shipping. We feel it is in the customers best interest to find a local A/C shop and have them mate your RX7 and GM A/C lines. With this approach, you will have a warranty under one roof.
Does the car still have power steering?

Yes, all H7 cars will use the stock 240 power steering rack. However, many of our customers choose to remove power steering for a better feel of the road.
Will my stock 240 cooling system work?

No, you will need to upgrade to a larger radiator to ensure great performance for years to come. We offer a ready to install cooling systems complete custom built radiator, new single HD Flex-a-lite fan, all hoses, clamps, condensor mounts, radiator shroud, and more. These cooling systems are standard in our turn-key builds. More information available here.
Will the real end handle the extra power of the LS1?

The stock VLSD 240SX rear end is a solid piece. The rear end is strong enough to handle the duties of daily driving, road racing, autoXs, and drag racing. However, a very high horsepower LS1 can break rear parts when launching on slicks, but this is a problem all drag racers face in any type of car. If you plan on running 9 or 10sec 1/4 mile passes, there are aftermarket setups available for installation to strengthen the rear. Check here for more information.
The KAAZ and chromoly axles carried us in to the low nine second range in the RX7. If you're interested in going faster, we can build your car up to NHRA 25.5 specifications or install a custom built solid axle rear end. Contact us for pricing.
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ???
this swap will end up being really eazy and I'm sure xat will be able to handle it. also the ls2 is being put in most everything now, all the part interchange, its just a few more cubes and better flowing heads. makes 400hp stock instead of 300ish for the ls1. so its going to be even easier to get ahold of motors soon.
ls1 = 320 or 350hp
ls2 = 400hp
both underrated slightly. later 01 and 02 ls1 engines are notorious for coming with factory bonus ls6 parts randomly as well.

ls1 and ls2 are NOT completely interchangable. some of the rotating assembly and head stuff is/isnt swappable, i dont quite understand it i know some you can some you cant, so i've just stayed uneducated and left it as ls1/ls6 and ls2/ls7.


I drove a stock sr swap for the first time, a few weeks ago and got out wondering what all the hype way about. it was pretty weak, even compaired to a good running ka. I'm sure a big turbo and 25lbs would help but why... when it would be cheaper in the long run to just put a v8 in it... and for drifting, turbo lag has to suck ass.
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mike, hope you get that thing to FD and kick bills ass with it show him how something with some hp slides
im pretty sure bandit has/had a lot more power than my car.
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Originally Posted by Nissan Racer
Interesting FAQ i found

How much will the car weigh?
We have not weighed the converted S13 in stock form yet. However, the specs should be very close to the S14 information listed below.

The aluminum GM LS1 and LS6 engines are extremely light power plants. With the complete removal of the KA engine and transmission, the project car's final weight is less than the total gross vehicle weight of a stock Nissan 240SX. The LS1 T56 combo is 128 pounds lighter than the KA four cylinder it replaces.

The final weight of the car is listed below. The car weighed 2,742lbs with a full interior and atleast a 1/4 tank of gas. This results in a F/R ratio of 56%/44%.
LF: 737
RF: 815
Total Front: 1,552 lbs
LR: 620
RR: 570
Total Rear: 1,190 lbs


How will it handle?

The converted car should handle better than the stock car due to the weight reduction. Our customers should expect their vehicles to handle just atleast as well as it did prior to the install.
How fast is the car?

Depending on the level of engine modification, our customers should expect even a stock LS1 conversion to perform better than a C5 Corvette Z06. All of this for less than 1/4 the cost. Most of our stock LS1 240s will run between an 11.9-12.5 second 1/4 mile pass. The range is based on track conditions and driver ability.
Our shop car has gone through a wide range of performance parts. Be sure to check out our media section for videos. We've built everything from 11 second daily drivers to our soon to hit the track 7 second RX7 monster. Stay tuned for progress on our shop S14 240.
How difficult is the conversion?

We have gone through great measures to build custom pieces for the 240SX. Our engine subsystems (cooling, fuel, hydraulics, etc) are built specificly for your model year, and the installation is very intuitive. However, we will provide instructions for parts that need explanation, and we are also available for phone and email technical support.
How much will it cost Hinson Super Cars to complete the conversion for me?

The cost for turn key cars is discussed here. Please review the page for your turn-key construction questions.
Where can I find an engine and transmission?

New and used engines and transmissions can be bought through HinsonSuperCars.com. Alternative sources are the classifieds section of LS1.com, LS1tech.com, and EBay.
Will I still be able to have air conditioning?

A/C is available on turnkey cars as an option. We do not offer mail order A/C services because the high possibility of damage to the lines during shipping. We feel it is in the customers best interest to find a local A/C shop and have them mate your RX7 and GM A/C lines. With this approach, you will have a warranty under one roof.
Does the car still have power steering?

Yes, all H7 cars will use the stock 240 power steering rack. However, many of our customers choose to remove power steering for a better feel of the road.
Will my stock 240 cooling system work?

No, you will need to upgrade to a larger radiator to ensure great performance for years to come. We offer a ready to install cooling systems complete custom built radiator, new single HD Flex-a-lite fan, all hoses, clamps, condensor mounts, radiator shroud, and more. These cooling systems are standard in our turn-key builds. More information available here.
Will the real end handle the extra power of the LS1?

The stock VLSD 240SX rear end is a solid piece. The rear end is strong enough to handle the duties of daily driving, road racing, autoXs, and drag racing. However, a very high horsepower LS1 can break rear parts when launching on slicks, but this is a problem all drag racers face in any type of car. If you plan on running 9 or 10sec 1/4 mile passes, there are aftermarket setups available for installation to strengthen the rear. Check here for more information.
The KAAZ and chromoly axles carried us in to the low nine second range in the RX7. If you're interested in going faster, we can build your car up to NHRA 25.5 specifications or install a custom built solid axle rear end. Contact us for pricing.
ka is within 30 lbs of a FIVE SPEED ka motorset.

however with an automatic this is a true statment
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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great a new fucking band wagon... now every fucking 240 and ricers gonna be saying " im going LS1" i hate this shit... ill stick to SR20... teenie bopers i swear.
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Originally Posted by Projekt
mike quick question




i have access to an ls1 harness (im not sure if you even use it), besides the motorset and custom mounts, what else do you need? if theres any way you could give me maybe a link to a writeup with everything involved that would be great. i cant decide between a ka coupe or ls1 coupe and id like to see how much more the ls1 swap would be.....

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Originally Posted by Mars_302
id have to 1 up everyone and do an Ls7 with a big cam, big exhaust, tuning and say hello to 600 rwhp n/a
why would you spend 10k on a motor to dump 3k into when you can make 600rwhp on a ls1 for less than that?
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Originally Posted by Silvia_San
mike i got a few questions. the LS1 will clear a stock hood and you had to cut the hood only for the magnacharger right? and also i was wondering if your running a standalone in your car. and i still have that fc nardi hub if you still want it, i have to see what my work schedule is this week and i can bring it up to xat for you. lemme know.

ls1 will clear a stock hood fine, the blower sticks out but with better mounts it would sit much much lower.
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Originally Posted by mikespeed95
why would you spend 10k on a motor to dump 3k into when you can make 600rwhp on a ls1 for less than that?

whats the point in having 600 whp for drifting? are you wanting your power to do all the work? hell anyone can drift with 600 hp just turn in floor gas and counter steer.... no real skill involved im not saying that about i saw you early as fuck initation.... it was good but id rather me be incontroll of car rather than it being in controll of me... isnt 300 -400 whp perfect for drifting i mean anything past that or around 400 whp is kinda a waste wouldnt u say...
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im one of those people where i think 100% throttle commitment with a lot of power, big sticky rear tires, no rear sway bar, noisy v8, early entry, and clutch kicking when you dont need to is cool.

and my car doesnt have 600rwhp, it probably has maybe 380rwhp, if that.
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