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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by THE_ONE
In no way am I taking sides, Orlando I like you and your good people but Ant is right, in no way should you have dropped the trans and taken it apart. You should have brought it straight to Jerry and had him fix it.
Then I wouldve never seen the "quality" of his work, Or the fact there was a broken part. The original reason the transmission was pulled was because of a bad throw out bearing. The backplate of the bearing broke off. Unless anyone knows how to replace a TOB without dropping the trans , it was coming down.
I was Well aware of 5th R being accessible while still in the car.
Its such an easy thing to get to , Thats why i pulled the cover off from the get go.
I saw the problem with my grind. That wasnt the big deal. I just went in to inspect the other components .And I found the extras that I wasnt happy about.

The $23 reverse syncro . no big. ( not happy about it .) but the rest was a joke to my standards.

As for his hours . Sorry , It was about 7-730 pm. The time I usually speak with Jerry. The only times I can get ahold of him . I was understanding that is his operation hours. He's a stay at home dad, take cars of his kids till the wife gets home. I was under the impression that that was perfectly acceptable.

ant, ive never called at any obscene hours and i definitely dont expect anyone to drop what they are doing for me . Im well aware that people have their own priorities in life.
Also i have plenty of consideration for others, I dont like getting involved with altercations like these.
Once again , Im simply pointing out the quality of the work that was paid for was not there.
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don't know either one of you personally or had work done by either one of you, but I see the point. If payment was for "new" parts, why were new parts not ordered/installed? If the homemade parts were better (to Jerry's standards) why not give the heads-up instead of leaving the customer under the assumption that new parts were installed?
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Jerry, I am VERY happy that this thread was created as it is certainly bringing light to your true colors that are shining through with every single post you have made in this thread thus far. I bring to you nothing but facts and legitimate questions in this thread, and your going to threaten ME?! LMFAO! There isn't a single HONEST thing you can negatively say about me in any capacity and it's down right laughable for you to even insinuate having such ammo.

Now stop deflecting further from the TOPIC AT HAND in this thread with meaningless dribble posts that have NOTHING to do with this situation whatsoever. YOUR customer paid for new parts and quality service. Orlando DID NOT receive either from the way I see it. Then when he tried to approach you in a civil matter you simply ducked his calls and turned him away. I find it even MORE laughable that you fabricate such an OBVIOUS lie claiming that Orlando threatened you with a harsh tone and the words "or else". THAT NEVER HAPPENED AS I WAS PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN FRONT OF HIM DURING THE PHONE CALL!

Your actions in this entire situation eerily resembles the Brothers old tactics. Take the customers money, cheap out as much as possible to get the job done for more profit, then lay low if the customer is unhappy and hope it all goes away. These type of actions are quite pathetic...

Btw, still awaiting the answer on my previous question of why the change of heart that you are so obviously avoiding. Did you originally mean it when you told Orlando that you would make things right with him or was that just a lie as well?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by x8psycho8x
don't know either one of you personally or had work done by either one of you, but I see the point. If payment was for "new" parts, why were new parts not ordered/installed? If the homemade parts were better (to Jerry's standards) why not give the heads-up instead of leaving the customer under the assumption that new parts were installed?
well thats exactly the thing here. he "assumed" he was getting new shims. I never told him or any of my customers they were getting new parts in places they arent needed. there are transmission shops that advertise they use all new shims and new lock nuts. maybe thats where he got the assumption I do them the same way? I dont advertise at all. I simply do things the way i like to do them for my own cars. Thats what he paid for and thats what he got. he is entitled to take his own trans apart to see if he got the parts he paid for. he not entitled to ask for money for me to pay for it his labor. he was not charged for new shims or new nuts.

Chris you have no business in this thread. why are you not in here with Tech that would be pertinent to the subject at hand? why arent you talking about the trans and t-case work thats in your record setting car? the ones I built? When Orlando called to talk about the trans he did mention your car. He said he loved the way it shifted. Hey isnt that the trans that was in the car when it went 9's. hmm. thats something. What I dont like about you Chris is how you have only one fast car to your name. A car that was built from all bolt on parts.That other people made. Then tuned by another shop. Then driven by you to record setting times. And now you are a pro. Enough of a pro to start your own speed shop. Didnt you tune Orlandos old EVO FP black car that he just sold? Cause I heard that car blew the head gasket the first week the new owner had the car. I guess he got a drag race safe tune and not a safe road race tune. Maybe he should have been informed what he was paying for? Worse than that you now claim to tune your own car? Hows that going? Cause when I drove the car on Scotts tune I was shocked how bad the daily drivability was. (have no idea what you paid for with Scott. hopefully WOT tuning only) After driving 100s of performance cars I can honestly say your car had the worst drivability I have ever seen. When John drove the car to dyno to Scotts he had the exact same impression. He had to call me the last time he did that for you. he was shocked at how bad the car drove. "have you ever driven this car" And hey even Orlando had to admit to the same. The same Orlando that you are siding with here. When Orlando dropped his tranny off here he talked about being the driver of your the car, to put brake in miles on it. he said when he was done after a week of driving the car he threw the keys back at you. He said he never wanted to drive your car again. he said it was the worst driving car he has ever driven. he said he doesnt want to build HIS car LIKE that. Whats really weird about this is you are the guy constantly on forums arguing with other people who are breaking your record times. your biggest argument always is how you car is not modded to be a race car. its still a street car with all the creature comforts. Even I was impressed by the the records. UNTIL I DROVE IT. hey we are just being honest here. hope thats okay with you. I do have something nice to say about your tuning. You did a good job on Miguels car. The one that has English racing start up map on it. His car drives quite nice. But I heard he paid 100 dollars for the tune from you. I just have one simple question for you. Is that your going rate for a tune? Or just how desperate you are to get your name out there?
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Originally Posted by danameisoj
The original reason the transmission was pulled was because of a bad throw out bearing. The backplate of the bearing broke off. Unless anyone knows how to replace a TOB without dropping the trans , it was coming down.
You probably should have mentioned this earlier. Cause this is the first time I am hearing about this. When throw out bearing isnt working correctly the clutch wont either. If the clutch doesnt disengage correctly the trans will have no chance of shifting correctly. and reverse will be first gear to grind. Even non certified techs know this. Now you REALLY look stupid here. First it was cables and now the brand new bearing... WOW just WOW you are an idiot....
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Originally Posted by lancerman
You probably should have mentioned this earlier. Cause this is the first time I am hearing about this. When throw out bearing isnt working correctly the clutch wont either. If the clutch doesnt disengage correctly the trans will have no chance of shifting correctly. and reverse will be first gear to grind. Even non certified techs know this. Now you REALLY look stupid here. First it was cables and now the brand new bearing... WOW just WOW you are an idiot....
Yes and even non certified techs and back yard mechanics should know that not all throw out bearing problems cause shifting issues. My tob was howling, It was starting to separate itself from the backing plate its pressed on to. The clutch was still fully disengaging ( Dont play stupid here) Btw the cables were never changed but i ended up with no problems with 5h and reverse hmm.. and it drove through all 5 gear . hmm

Yes Chris's car is the worst evo ive driven. And the reasons for it were made known to you . But ill reiterate them for you since you seem to be on a bash tangent .

Chris car has solid components EVERYWHERE. That mixed with the shitbomb judder the speed density patch has , which ( currently has no fix) Makes the car rock back and forth while cruising. Its annoying to drive.
Then chris's car has no sound deadening. Mix that in with no balance shafts and solid mounts makes for a very noisy car. Another things thats purely annoying
But like you said ITS A 9 SECOND CAR. Sacrifices had to be made to get that thing down the track the way it did.
I wouldnt do that to my car because it bothers me, but he's fine with it and he doesnt notice things as much as my picky ass.

My fpblack evo is driving up and down the roads of spring hill , currently still at 524hp. and the owner made an appearance at sunshine 2 weeks ago . He also raced the car.
New owner fed me false info of coolant missing and the car sputtering saying it would barely run. ( sounds like a headgasket)

The IAC took a dump and with the bad gas he got he fouled out the plugs . I went to look at the car and started laughing on how bad he was making it sound when the car simply had spark blowout.

New plugs and an iac later the car is perfect again , He just messed up the trans at sunshine and is going to be putting a new waterpump in since that was his lack of coolant , it has a drip starting to form.

So if you want a testament of his Chris's ability, The car has seen nothing but pure abuse, gallons of methanol have gone through the car since its left my possession and the car has smacked the rev limitter more than driftcars , but damn , its still together with perfect compression .
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Originally Posted by lancerman
well thats exactly the thing here. he "assumed" he was getting new shims. I never told him or any of my customers they were getting new parts in places they arent needed. there are transmission shops that advertise they use all new shims and new lock nuts. maybe thats where he got the assumption I do them the same way? I dont advertise at all. I simply do things the way i like to do them for my own cars. Thats what he paid for and thats what he got. he is entitled to take his own trans apart to see if he got the parts he paid for. he not entitled to ask for money for me to pay for it his labor. he was not charged for new shims or new nuts.
So I guess you just answered Cjacksons post finally that he made previously in this thread. You charged Orlando $300 labor and $1200 for home made parts. You continue to make yourself look like a further scumbag Jerry. There is no fucking way in hell ANYONE would even have to assume they are getting OEM parts for that price. It is simply EXPECTED.

Originally Posted by lancerman
Chris you have no business in this thread. why are you not in here with Tech that would be pertinent to the subject at hand?
All I have done is talk about the subject at hand Jerry. Every time I ask you a question about your poor business ethics regarding Orlando or Miguels business dealings with you, you gone on a 3 paragraph rant about something that has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand in further attempts to derail the thread and avoid the entire situation.

Originally Posted by lancerman
why arent you talking about the trans and t-case work thats in your record setting car? the ones I built? When Orlando called to talk about the trans he did mention your car. He said he loved the way it shifted. Hey isnt that the trans that was in the car when it went 9's. hmm. thats something.
This is one of the reasons as to why I am so upset about these business situations with you Jerry. I know your capable of doing good work. That's what makes this even further frustrating. It's not a matter of you can't do it, but shear laziness and greed that is the real cause of these situations.


Originally Posted by lancerman
What I dont like about you Chris is how you have only one fast car to your name.A car that was built from all bolt on parts.That other people made. Then tuned by another shop. Then driven by you to record setting times. And now you are a pro. Enough of a pro to start your own speed shop.
Well isn't this the pot calling the kettle black. As I remember it, you have in your entire career only had one fast car as well, the yellow one. Last I checked the fastest it went was 10.1....My math may be wrong but, isn't 9.96 FASTER then 10.1? Weird how I have been in this game maybe 1/4 of the time you have, yet I have already produced a faster car, interesting.... You may have not been "tuned by a shop" but you have certainly had quite a bit of help on the DSM Link forums. Posting up your logs and having others tell you how to fix things. Hmm.... quite hypocritical don't you think????

Originally Posted by lancerman
Didnt you tune Orlandos old EVO FP black car that he just sold? Cause I heard that car blew the head gasket the first week the new owner had the car. I guess he got a drag race safe tune and not a safe road race tune. Maybe he should have been informed what he was paying for?
Ah, here come the lies that I knew you were going to create since you lied about your phone conversation with Orlando. That car has been beaten mercilessly by it's new owner and is still running perfectly to this day. The owner has recently broken the transmission due to driver error, but as for the motor, it is still in perfect working order and the owner is very happy with the driveability and performance. I would be more then happy to ask the new owner of the car to get on Tampa Racing and talk about his positive experiences with his new car in this thread if you'd like. Blowing head gaskets is your thing Jerry, not mine.

Originally Posted by lancerman
Worse than that you now claim to tune your own car? Hows that going?
That's going perfectly fine, thanks for asking. I have made the driveability as good as it gets on speed density for the Evo stock ecu. The program inherently has a random ignition studder around 2,500 rpms during cruise that has unable to be completely fixed by the computer programmers that have developed the program for the stock Ecu. Oh, and I made 557whp on 93oct so far.


Originally Posted by lancerman
Cause when I drove the car on Scotts tune I was shocked how bad the daily drivability was. (have no idea what you paid for with Scott. hopefully WOT tuning only) After driving 100s of performance cars I can honestly say your car had the worst drivability I have ever seen. When John drove the car to dyno to Scotts he had the exact same impression. He had to call me the last time he did that for you. he was shocked at how bad the car drove. "have you ever driven this car"
Just another meaningless paragraph that has nothing to do with anyone in this thread. We all know Scott tunes like shit, which is why he is out of the community. Also because he had many dishonest business dealings....better be careful Jerry.

Originally Posted by lancerman
And hey even Orlando had to admit to the same. The same Orlando that you are siding with here. When Orlando dropped his tranny off here he talked about being the driver of your the car, to put brake in miles on it. he said when he was done after a week of driving the car he threw the keys back at you. He said he never wanted to drive your car again. he said it was the worst driving car he has ever driven. he said he doesnt want to build HIS car LIKE that. Whats really weird about this is you are the guy constantly on forums arguing with other people who are breaking your record times. your biggest argument always is how you car is not modded to be a race car. its still a street car with all the creature comforts. Even I was impressed by the the records. UNTIL I DROVE IT. hey we are just being honest here. hope thats okay with you.
Yes, Orlando is not a fan of my car. I have solid motor mounts, balance shafts removed, and a solid rear differential support bar so the car has extra vibrations carrying through the frame. Orlando is a fan of OEM and doing mild modifications to make the car as close to stock as possible, not into making track results and setting records. He is far more laid back then I am. The car still has a/c, full interior, in dash navigation, etc.. It is FAR from a race car.

Originally Posted by lancerman
I do have something nice to say about your tuning. You did a good job on Miguels car. The one that has English racing start up map on it. His car drives quite nice. But I heard he paid 100 dollars for the tune from you. I just have one simple question for you. Is that your going rate for a tune? Or just how desperate you are to get your name out there?
Yes the car had a start up map from English Racing. I was unavailable to drive to Tampa the week Miguel was ready to get his car running, so he enlisted Aaron to send him a base map. Miguel has been an acquaintance of Aarons for a good while now and they have a good performance relationship together. Aarons a great guy and I am happy to see him get some of Miguels business. My car drives very similar to Miguels car with Aaron's base map on the car. The only real difference is I have my car running in closed loop for cruising, while Aaron has set up Miguels base map with full time open loop. Not particularly my taste, but it works fine on Miguels car. I see you are going to stoop even lower by publicly advertising the special sponsorship price I gave Miguel because of the potential of his setup and him being a long time friend. No, that is not my going rate Jerry, but it is something I am able to do for a guy that has an extremely modest budget and deserves a break. We can't all do business like yourself, trying to suck wallets dry..



Now that I have cleared up all of your lies, misinformation, and answering your continued off topic useless posts, I will attempt to get back to the topic at hand. You charged Orlando NEW prices for used and damaged parts, told him on the phone you would make it right, and then ducked his calls and told him you wouldn't talk to him about this again. Why Jerry???? Why did you tell Orlando on the phone that you would make this situation right by him and then leave him hanging out to dry????
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:37 AM
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A broken backside to a TOB most certainly does cause the clutch to disengage incorrectly. a wobble to the bearing will cause the pressure plate fingers to cycle in and out. if the fingers cycle in and out so is pressure plate surface. it may feel adjusted perfectly, but it cant be corrected without replacing the bearing.

Chris if you want to compare the yellow car to you piece of shit evo you are on crack. My car has none of those imperfections you ramble about on your car. Yellow car is an awesome driving car. And my times were done on the same street tires I drove to the track with. plus I built the car with my own bare hands from the ground up. there really isnt a single bolt on part on the car. . tons and tons of talent in the build. You have no talent that I or anyone else has seen. But stick your mouth where it dont belong and brag about your pointless records.
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Originally Posted by lancerman
A broken backside to a TOB most certainly does cause the clutch to disengage incorrectly. a wobble to the bearing will cause the pressure plate fingers to cycle in and out. if the fingers cycle in and out so is pressure plate surface. it may feel adjusted perfectly, but it cant be corrected without replacing the bearing.

Chris if you want to compare the yellow car to you piece of shit evo you are on crack. My car has none of those imperfections you ramble about on your car. Yellow car is an awesome driving car. And my times were done on the same street tires I drove to the track with. plus I built the car with my own bare hands from the ground up. there really isnt a single bolt on part on the car. . tons and tons of talent in the build. You have no talent that I or anyone else has seen. But stick your mouth where it dont belong and brag about your pointless records.
another pointless thing for us to argue about . s we both have different sides to it .
The broken tob still doesnt cause a chipped gear and homemade shim .
This thread is really going nowhere.
This was just to inform people of what comes from you as a "quality job"
Not to set and start arguments about everything and anything that comes to mid to derail the thread.
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