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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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If he paid you money for a rebuild I believe you should have kept him informed on all the stuff you were reusing or making at home. At least keep him up to date and give him the choice between OEM parts and parts that you make or reuse. Thats what I would expect and think of as fair.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ryu
Jerry, Orlando tried handling this in a civil matter. He called you and spoke with you on the phone expressing his concerns with your work after the transmission was opened up to inspect the inside. During the phone conversation, you suddenly told Orlando your phone was dying and you asked to continue the conversation the next day. Orlando agreed, but before ending the call he specifically asked if he was definitely going to get a hold of you the following day and that you would not dodge Orlando's phone call, to which you replied, "Orlando,I like you, your a good guy. I'm going to take care of you and we will definitely discuss this matter further tomorrow."

The following day Orlando patiently awaits your phone call until 7:30p.m. at which time he attempts to contact you by phone. Your wife answers and states you aren't home and she will have you call Orlando back. The phone call is never returned, so Orlando pm's you to attempt again to contact you on the matter. He then gets the replied pm from you that he quoted in his first post in this thread stating that you no longer wish to discuss this matter.

This all leads me to asking yoou a smiple question Jerry. What happened between the time Orlando talked to you on the phone were you said he was a good guy, that you would resolve this situation with him and the following evening to were you would not take his phone calls nor discuss the situation further in a pm? Why the change of heart? The way I see it, you were given a fair chance to handle this amongst yourselves in a private, dignified, and professional manner. Unfrotuantely you threw it away by choosing to close the doors on all civil communications which resulted in the creation of this thread.
Orlando called while I was driving home with a hot meal I just purchased. I was looking forward to eating that meal and watching my favorite TV program. It would have been best for him to call during business hours. That would have been a very good idea. I gave him the phone time even though that meant missing my show and having to eat my meal cold. When the battery died I kindly asked to extend the conversation the next day.
What changed was I dint even look at his pictures yet. I wanted to watch my show and eat my meal. After seeing the pictures I saw that Orlando was diagnosing the trans issues incorrectly. At that point I was pretty pissed that someone was accusing me of something I didnt do. It was quite clear from the conversation if I didnt pay Orlando the money he was asking for that he would would have no choice but to post pictures of the work. I asked my wife if THAT was worth 300 dollars to us. I find it funny that Orlando claims he approached this professionally.
A. he never contacted me to see I I wanted to warrant my work. thats not professional.
B. he contacts me after HE does the warranty work then demands I pay him or else. (very funny he failed to mention that part, maybe because to most that is blackmail) thats hardly professional.
C. then he posts his side of things with a title of "jerry rigged" and text with "Santa" etc. . yeah thats very professional.
D. Chris, did you really need to know the answer to your simple question or was this just a clear attempt to show everyone who side you are on on this? No need to answer. no one is that dumb.

If you post more crap that doesnt matter I will start posting crap about your skills. trust me you wont like it.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lancerman
Orlando called while I was driving home with a hot meal I just purchased. I was looking forward to eating that meal and watching my favorite TV program. It would have been best for him to call during business hours. That would have been a very good idea. I gave him the phone time even though that meant missing my show and having to eat my meal cold. When the battery died I kindly asked to extend the conversation the next day.
What changed was I dint even look at his pictures yet. I wanted to watch my show and eat my meal. After seeing the pictures I saw that Orlando was diagnosing the trans issues incorrectly. At that point I was pretty pissed that someone was accusing me of something I didnt do. It was quite clear from the conversation if I didnt pay Orlando the money he was asking for that he would would have no choice but to post pictures of the work. I asked my wife if THAT was worth 300 dollars to us. I find it funny that Orlando claims he approached this professionally.
A. he never contacted me to see I I wanted to warrant my work. thats not professional.
B. he contacts me after HE does the warranty work then demands I pay him or else. (very funny he failed to mention that part, maybe because to most that is blackmail) thats hardly professional.
C. then he posts his side of things with a title of "jerry rigged" and text with "Santa" etc. . yeah thats very professional.
D. Chris, did you really need to know the answer to your simple question or was this just a clear attempt to show everyone who side you are on on this? No need to answer. no one is that dumb.

If you post more crap that doesnt matter I will start posting crap about your skills. trust me you wont like it.
Business hours? Jerry you dont have a legit business front. You dont have hours posted. Hell a majority or people come to you after hours as it is . So that statement is completely null and void.


A. After seeing the shast work . I wouldnt trust you checking my tire pressure , let alone touching the transmission again.
B I never told you " or else ., your the one that mentioned "Your most likely going to make a post" nice try again.
C You failed to realize that Jerry rigged is a common term , coincidence that its your name. But sadly its what your work is named in the Orlando dsm comminty and in the Tampa area as well.


In your opinion you still see nothing wrong with what you did.
1, I pay for new parts , I get damaged and home made parts.
2. I asked for you to consider a measly 300 which is chump change considering I paid 5 times that.
I dont care about the money , Its spent and gone , its no longer a part of my life. I posted this to show others the kind of dealings that come from you.

Theres plenty of these scenarios from you in this area . It almost holds a candle to the Brothers dealings.
Its only a matter of time before people realize the same way they did for them.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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Only since my name has been mentioned will I post here. In Jerry's defense he is really a good guy that sometime makes really bad decisions and or mistakes like anyone else.. The only thing I really see wrong with his situations is that in the end he doesn't completely make it up to people or make things right...

Info on me is I'm a poor black broke fucker with a wife and 3 kids that busts his ass for every penny he has and those who know me know this. So I have needed much help to get to where I am, Drew,Chris,Anthony,Zlatin "Z" have always been there to help get me where I am and never once expected anything in return even tho I offered. Jerry will help as well in his own way as long as he still comes out on top.

The situation mentioned... With much discussion on putting my car together with those involved it was settled that I would need an Evo ix transmission with a 411 final drive to get me through the 1/4 in 4th. Jerry said he had and sold me the Evo transmission that he had believed to be an Evo ix trans. I bought the final drive because Jerry swore by it being a ix, so at this point I spent 900 for trans, then another 960 on the FD. I then needed a clutch and was sold on the exedy tripple by Chris "Ryu"... I told Jerry about it and he went on about it being a horribly noisy clutch and I would hate it. I needed what he had, so I spent another 900 with Jerry and bought his RPS clutch that supposedly had low mileage on it.

Now we get to the issues... The clutch slipped the very first time I got on it with any real power, Jerry says I got oil on it. I told him there was no oil anywhere to be found on the clutch, he stuck by it,ok. So after a while of driving it seemed to stick once it was hot, so I had the car tuned further and it help for that... I was happy, but during the tuning we noticed that the car not only accelerated slow for the power it made but wouldn't spin tires no matter what we did.. Chris immediately went detective and started studying logs and found that the car was hitting 142mph at 8k rpm in 4th... Something is wrong, this isn't an evo ix trans. We brought it to Jerry's attention and he swore once again that Chris was wrong and it was a ix....

Situation 2..... After a race with a car making 150 less hp, I realized that I could not shift above 7k rpm for some reason, so even with being locked out of every gear I still managed to keep the other car in the same amount of lengths that he jumped me out of the hole by leaving early, yea I'm stupid for chasing, sorry it was my first race and I believed I could run him down. I was wrong, the car didn't have the acceleration needed to reel him in and pass him before the end of the race... Then I knew I had to do something...

Solution
I said enough of this bs and Ant and I ripped the trans out and brought it to Jerry to remove the FD and go back to stock... While Jerry inspected the clutch he said it still looks new and sorry that he sold me a clutch that wouldn't work with my power or shift where I needed it... I thought to myself, at least he apologized that was nice... He then later offered me $200 to buy it back out of the $900 I gave him for something that didn't work... Not so nice

He then went through my trans and said it was hurt, it needed new forks, I think rails, and syncros with a good gasoline cleaning. I thought that would be free given the circumstances, but I was charged $325 and was told that it's half of what he normally charges for the work done... That was nice that he was helping me out! I then had him rebuild my T-case and upgrade the bolts. Being that my financial situation isn't the best since I had to buy a new $2,000 dollar clutch which I should have bought in the first place when I had the $$$, I traded him the clutch for the work. That was nice of him. He noticed while he was rebuilding the trans that it was actually... okay Ryu, you were right.... An evo 8 trans that was sold to me... Evo 8 trans + 411 = 200mph + trans, I would need over 1000hp to use that, now wonder why my car was so slow..... I again received an apology, that again was nice...

The FD that came out the trans had some small chips on the tips of the teeth, nothing to really worry about, so I sold it. The guy who bought it freaked, so I told him that I would replace it, I called Shep, he said send it in, I sent it in and Shep laughed and said it was mint and wouldn't sell me a replacement as nothing was wrong with it and cleaned it up. Shep said the reason for the chipped teeth was due to incorrect install, Jerry disagrees. What can I do... Oh well

The thing is that I wouldn't have even bought it if I knew I had an Evo 8 trans instead of what I supposedly purchased, now my paypal account is locked up, and all for something I didn't need.

Oh well, at least Jerry apologized to me, and I'm sure he would have apologized to Orlando too given the opportunity.
He isn't a bad guy, I got into a bind and needed some money, he took my turbo as collateral and loaned it to me. He looks out for me when he can I guess...

So Give him a chance to apologize and make it all better people. No need for this to turn into a bash fest.

Thanks again Jerry for all your apologies,
Miguel
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lancerman
If you post more crap that doesnt matter I will start posting crap about your skills. trust me you wont like it.
lmao..... Funiest shit I've heard in a while.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Glad you like it JR. I am actually laughing my ass off too. Seriously. Orlando is 100% right and so am I. No amount of text will change that. I knew that before this thread got started.

just so you guys know. I truly got into the 4g63 because I loved the engine. i made cars fast and it got me lots of attention. all business that stemmed from doing so was simply word of mouth. I never asked for it. i was making good money buying and selling cars I didnt need the income from servicing the cars. service work sucks. .buying and selling stuff is clean easy and far more profitable. earlier this year i experimented with selling stereo equipment. I would find speakers for a couple hundred off craigs list. clean them take nice pictures and sell for triple what i paid. one set I paid 1200 for and resold for 3500. that transaction took me about eight hours time start to finish. . most easy to very easy and just plain fun. a few years ago I bought a property for 5000 and resold it four years later for 137,000. lucky me. why the hell do i care to build transmissions? its dirty filthy smelly work that tears up the body in short order. I did it because people asked me to. its not fun.

now I am being compared to the Brothers?? OMG. that is funny shit. where the low blow police?? yeah I have some bad transactions out there. buy hey there are 1000s of good ones to make up for it. i sleep like a baby. and my true friends could give two shits about this thread. it changes nothing in my life that matters.

take that for what its worth. if everyone stops asking me for help I will be better off really. there is a sea of money out there. limiting yourself by working for others will never get you a piece of it. I think its time for me to keep my cars my own personal hobby. and focus on money making in better areas.

enjoy your popcorn. let the bashing continue...
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lancerman
Glad you like it JR. I am actually laughing my ass off too. Seriously. Orlando is 100% right and so am I. No amount of text will change that. I knew that before this thread got started.

just so you guys know. I truly got into the 4g63 because I loved the engine. i made cars fast and it got me lots of attention. all business that stemmed from doing so was simply word of mouth. I never asked for it. i was making good money buying and selling cars I didnt need the income from servicing the cars. service work sucks. .buying and selling stuff is clean easy and far more profitable. earlier this year i experimented with selling stereo equipment. I would find speakers for a couple hundred off craigs list. clean them take nice pictures and sell for triple what i paid. one set I paid 1200 for and resold for 3500. that transaction took me about eight hours time start to finish. . most easy to very easy and just plain fun. a few years ago I bought a property for 5000 and resold it four years later for 137,000. lucky me. why the hell do i care to build transmissions? its dirty filthy smelly work that tears up the body in short order. I did it because people asked me to. its not fun.

now I am being compared to the Brothers?? OMG. that is funny shit. where the low blow police?? yeah I have some bad transactions out there. buy hey there are 1000s of good ones to make up for it. i sleep like a baby. and my true friends could give two shits about this thread. it changes nothing in my life that matters.

take that for what its worth. if everyone stops asking me for help I will be better off really. there is a sea of money out there. limiting yourself by working for others will never get you a piece of it. I think its time for me to keep my cars my own personal hobby. and focus on money making in better areas.

enjoy your popcorn. let the bashing continue...
thats great another total off topic paragraph from you.
An obvious difference between us is , When Im wrong Ill be the first to admit it . Theres no shame in admitting when your at fault.
You still dont see the fact of someone paid for a new part. and you gave them a broken one.

Ill put it in a way thats easy to understand.
You go and buy a brand new car. When they deliver it to you , the door is smashed in . Sure the car "works and it doesn't affect anything" but the door is still messed up. Same goes for the gear inside the transmission .

Any one would be upset at that scenario . Yet you say just because it doesn't affect anything , there's nothing wrong.

Im glad you have other means of making money and that you feel you are Superior to people that wrench. By all means continue in other ventures and save others from making the mistake to confiding in you for repairs.
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Hey,in Jerry's defense,yes "business hours". I do the same as Jerry,and just because you don't have a store front,DOES NOT mean that we are you 24 hr emergency mechanic's hotline. SHIT HAPPENS,bad parts,bad info,and people make mistakes. Just because a person works outta their house,doesn't mean you have the right to cal all hours of the morning/day/night,and expect them to drop everything they're doing to help YOU. It doesn't work like that. We have lives,familys,etc. You are a priority,but you can't always be FIRST priority. Were you going to die from not having your problem looked at or given attention to immediately? I doubt it. Should something be done? Yes. Should you have taken your own trans apart,or whatever? NOOOOO. You don't DO that.
Have a little consideration for someone besides yourself.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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The way u said it was funny. I am not trying to start anything here, if anything I wanna say thanks for the times u have helped me with my car, tranny and clutches.Even the best of the best make mistakes every once in while. So it's just stupid to compare Jerry to other people.
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GSX/SC
Hey,in Jerry's defense,yes "business hours". I do the same as Jerry,and just because you don't have a store front,DOES NOT mean that we are you 24 hr emergency mechanic's hotline. SHIT HAPPENS,bad parts,bad info,and people make mistakes. Just because a person works outta their house,doesn't mean you have the right to cal all hours of the morning/day/night,and expect them to drop everything they're doing to help YOU. It doesn't work like that. We have lives,familys,etc. You are a priority,but you can't always be FIRST priority. Were you going to die from not having your problem looked at or given attention to immediately? I doubt it. Should something be done? Yes. Should you have taken your own trans apart,or whatever? NOOOOO. You don't DO that.
Have a little consideration for someone besides yourself.
In no way am I taking sides, Orlando I like you and your good people but Ant is right, in no way should you have dropped the trans and taken it apart. You should have brought it straight to Jerry and had him fix it.
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