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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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The trans has 90 miles on it . Why was there a 100,000 mile part in it ??? IF it was a complete rebuild.

For 1500 jack,shep and tre include everything brand new.

I clearance it .003 tighter than OEM Sorry If its Not your .0010 you claimed.

Try an be professional. Your constant insults make you seem lower of an individual.
I have not said any against you as a person but I have gone against your workmanship.

2 complete different things.

But you are right . I am an idiot, in trusting a no name shop with my trans.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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Illegalmodz if post in here again it gets deleted and will be on you. You obviously don't know as much about Shep as you think.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Tom your absolutley correct. I dont know him personally, have seen a few examples of him work. But I dont have a leg to stand on there .

But jacks does offer a full rebuild kit with everything thats inside the trans, and offers it to the public. I did speak with jack reguarding parts as i did purchase from him.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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On another Note .. If jerry has never opened a book on any of the transmissions he has built . How are His clearances justified. Because he belives itll work better? How did you know it was off or to tight from the get go??

You need to make an assesment of how you go about things rather than the though of "it works"


btw as for being the idiot that removes the tranny for r/5 , there were other reasons to the trans removal as well, once again another stab at me without knowing .
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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No transmission shop is with out error. The following is 100% true.
Local here had trasmission built with Shepard Trans. It cost well over 2000. The trans started grinding 5th gear one or two months after install. Shep got the call he said send it back. The trans was shipped back. Shep does not pay for shipping or trans R &R. The trans came back they put it back in car. It happen again in two short months 5th was grinding again. A second time the trans was removed and shipped back. agin at the cost of poor customer. Guess what ? It happened a third time. But this time Shep got an earfull on the phone. "just send the parts so we can fix it here" he did. thats all I heard about the story but I think project failed due to high maintenance costs
and just recently I local here brought an evo trans to me to freshen up and install HKS 4.11. The gear was purchased from Shep for 900+. the 4.11 gear comes in mitsu built car. you can buy those parts for about 600 from mistu. The parts I installed came in mistubishi boxes. The part numbers were torn off the boxes. ended up the gear ratio was hurting and not helping so we reinstalled the factory 4.53. When the final 4.11 was removed it was mysteriously chipped on half the teeth. The matter was brought to sheps attention and he said to send the gear back so he could shave the chipped portion of the gear off. he said it should have been dome before shipment and apologized for it.
If shep is your favorite trans builder i have more true stories to tell you about if you want to her them.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lancerman
and just recently I local here brought an evo trans to me to freshen up and install HKS 4.11. The gear was purchased from Shep for 900+. the 4.11 gear comes in mitsu built car. you can buy those parts for about 600 from mistu. The parts I installed came in mistubishi boxes. The part numbers were torn off the boxes. ended up the gear ratio was hurting and not helping so we reinstalled the factory 4.53. When the final 4.11 was removed it was mysteriously chipped on half the teeth. The matter was brought to sheps attention and he said to send the gear back so he could shave the chipped portion of the gear off. he said it should have been dome before shipment and apologized for it.
If shep is your favorite trans builder i have more true stories to tell you about if you want to her them.
I'm actually glad you brought this up as it is a very good example of a customer not getting what he paid for. This is a situation I am very familiar with as I have tuned this car and aided in planning the setup of it as well. The customer in question purchased the Evo transmission from yourself, which was said to be an Evo IX transmission. The 4.11 final drive did not hurt the cars acceleration, what did however is the Evo 8 4th gear that was in the transmission. Now for others who do not have first hand knowledge regarding that situation, the customer paid for an Evo IX transmission as that was the plan to keep the shorter 4th gear with the longer final drive for optimal gearing of the customers trap speed goals. During tuning in 4th gear on a local dyno, I noticed that the mph @8,000rpms did not add up on either my logs or the tach. On stock size tires and 4.11 final drive with the Evo IX 4th gear, the mph should be right on 132.2mph. With the Evo VIII 4th gear and 4.11 final drive, the mph is approx. 142.46mph. Guess what, both logs and tach showed 142mph @ 8,000rpms. The customer in question contacted you in which you swore up and down that it was a full Evo IX transmission.

I like you Jerry, I really have never had any personal issues with you myself, but from what I have seen others going through lately with business dealings of yours, I am not very happy to see them. I know both Orlando and the customer in question above very well. They are good honest hard working individuals that imo have been wronged. I wish you would take a step back, swallow your pride for a moment and consider the possibility that you are capable of making mistakes. Once that is done, I believe you will do the right thing and correct them accordingly.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 09:12 AM
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Wait, so Orlando paid $300 for labor and $1200 for home made parts? I'm confused.
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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I fully admitted my mistakes on both cars. The transmission I did for Miguels car was sold to me as a 9 transmission. I was an idiot for not checking when doing his trans. I trusted that info as fact and had a hard time selling as a result. it had been sitting on the shelf for about 4 years. (IE no one wants a 9 trans) if I had known it was an 8 trans all along I wouldnt have even had it to sell in the first place would have been sold long ago. . The gear ratios were too long in all the gears not just forth. And now that he is back with 4.53 he is better off with 8 ratios. his trans needed to be rebuilt worse that the first time so he was not really out anything.It needed to be rebuilt anyway. In the end it turned out a plus he has an 8 trans. Someone sold me a trans as a evo9. thats was wrong. I unknowingly passed it along as one.

I also not hiding a possible mistake with reverse gear on Orlandos car. But the way he handled it was completely wrong. He was a bad mechanic for not being able to figure out cables were his trans problem. that set a bad tone for the rest of the carnage. I was never contacted about reverse not functioning correct after he fixed the cables. How could I possible help? I would have been more than happy to correct the problem, just wasnt given a chance. Then he bashes my work c while calling me Santa while doing it. Yeah thats professional. . Sorry if you you dont like the way this is going down., No I dont need the 300. its the principal of things. I dont do anything unethical here in any way as I see it. Just trying to help as usual.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lancerman
I fully admitted my mistakes on both cars. The transmission I did for Miguels car was sold to me as a 9 transmission. I was an idiot for not checking when doing his trans. I trusted that info as fact and had a hard time selling as a result. it had been sitting on the shelf for about 4 years. (IE no one wants a 9 trans) if I had known it was an 8 trans all along I wouldnt have even had it to sell in the first place would have been sold long ago. . The gear ratios were too long in all the gears not just forth. And now that he is back with 4.53 he is better off with 8 ratios. his trans needed to be rebuilt worse that the first time so he was not really out anything.It needed to be rebuilt anyway. In the end it turned out a plus he has an 8 trans. Someone sold me a trans as a evo9. thats was wrong. I unknowingly passed it along as one.

I also not hiding a possible mistake with reverse gear on Orlandos car. But the way he handled it was completely wrong. He was a bad mechanic for not being able to figure out cables were his trans problem. that set a bad tone for the rest of the carnage. I was never contacted about reverse not functioning correct after he fixed the cables. How could I possible help? I would have been more than happy to correct the problem, just wasnt given a chance. Then he bashes my work c while calling me Santa while doing it. Yeah thats professional. . Sorry if you you dont like the way this is going down., No I dont need the 300. its the principal of things. I dont do anything unethical here in any way as I see it. Just trying to help as usual.
Its interesting how it makes me as so called bad machanic to not know my shift cables are bad, when the previous owner and I both drove the car with 3,4,5 r with no problems.. It would ocaasionally go into second fine but it was locked out. I had you mess with the tranny and I end up with 2,4,r with issues.

Think of the scenario clearly , Worked before , now it doesnt? hmmm
I made it a point that i tend to agree with you on the aspect of the cables being cuplrit . Once again that is not what this thread was about.
It was to point out what was found in the transmission.
Youve admitted that whats in the trans is the way you do things , Thats your preogative , You missed things and charged me for your home made build.
I wasnt happy because its not the way I nor others in this business go about fixing things.
END of story.
You have a mindset of your never wrong, I can take these components in this transmission and show any tranny shop/ technician that is reputable and they laugh and consider it a joke.
You could have used the proper parts and this would have never been an issue.
I couldve overlooked R wave clip as that could be a human error. The rest is negligence.
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Jerry, Orlando tried handling this in a civil matter. He called you and spoke with you on the phone expressing his concerns with your work after the transmission was opened up to inspect the inside. During the phone conversation, you suddenly told Orlando your phone was dying and you asked to continue the conversation the next day. Orlando agreed, but before ending the call he specifically asked if he was definitely going to get a hold of you the following day and that you would not dodge Orlando's phone call, to which you replied, "Orlando,I like you, your a good guy. I'm going to take care of you and we will definitely discuss this matter further tomorrow."

The following day Orlando patiently awaits your phone call until 7:30p.m. at which time he attempts to contact you by phone. Your wife answers and states you aren't home and she will have you call Orlando back. The phone call is never returned, so Orlando pm's you to attempt again to contact you on the matter. He then gets the replied pm from you that he quoted in his first post in this thread stating that you no longer wish to discuss this matter.

This all leads me to asking yoou a smiple question Jerry. What happened between the time Orlando talked to you on the phone were you said he was a good guy, that you would resolve this situation with him and the following evening to were you would not take his phone calls nor discuss the situation further in a pm? Why the change of heart? The way I see it, you were given a fair chance to handle this amongst yourselves in a private, dignified, and professional manner. Unfrotuantely you threw it away by choosing to close the doors on all civil communications which resulted in the creation of this thread.
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