2.0L vs 2.4L
Yea, more than likely it would be pointless to use a small turbo with a larger motor. However, I don't feel that they are building the all three of those cars "around" the turbo. Even though you could be correct I would assume you would start with a motor and then choose parts that would complement it. Yet this also brings up the idea that these cars are not built specifically for track use. They are intended for durability i.e. daily driving.
I went from a 50trim 2.0 to a Jerry built 2.3. I personally liked the 24psi spooled at 2800-3000 rpm on the 2.3. The 2.0 would spool 24psi at 3600-3800 rpm. I ran a 12.2xx at 114.xxmph with the 2.0. I ran a 11.8xx at 119.xxmph with the 2.3.
2.0 60ft's were in the 1.7-1.8 range. The 2.3 were 1.5-1.6 range.
Daily driven, 2.3 rules. A daily driver in the 11's is great.
All this was done on pump gas with Alky injection. No race gas. So it was tuned to run 11's all the time. As soon as I get my current project running, I will be swithcing to another Jerry 2.3.
2.0 60ft's were in the 1.7-1.8 range. The 2.3 were 1.5-1.6 range.
Daily driven, 2.3 rules. A daily driver in the 11's is great.
All this was done on pump gas with Alky injection. No race gas. So it was tuned to run 11's all the time. As soon as I get my current project running, I will be swithcing to another Jerry 2.3.
Originally Posted by 44PIRATE
I went from a 50trim 2.0 to a Jerry built 2.3. I personally liked the 24psi spooled at 2800-3000 rpm on the 2.3. The 2.0 would spool 24psi at 3600-3800 rpm. I ran a 12.2xx at 114.xxmph with the 2.0. I ran a 11.8xx at 119.xxmph with the 2.3.
2.0 60ft's were in the 1.7-1.8 range. The 2.3 were 1.5-1.6 range.
Daily driven, 2.3 rules. A daily driver in the 11's is great.
All this was done on pump gas with Alky injection. No race gas. So it was tuned to run 11's all the time. As soon as I get my current project running, I will be swithcing to another Jerry 2.3.
2.0 60ft's were in the 1.7-1.8 range. The 2.3 were 1.5-1.6 range.
Daily driven, 2.3 rules. A daily driver in the 11's is great.
All this was done on pump gas with Alky injection. No race gas. So it was tuned to run 11's all the time. As soon as I get my current project running, I will be swithcing to another Jerry 2.3.
Depending on how much you spray and with the effects it has on the octane and the cooling temps, people who say they run 10s/11s on pump gas then I see an alky injection on their setup are just in denial. 10s on pump gas means just pump gas, nothing else.
Originally Posted by 4drwhore
pump gas + alky injection = race gas
Depending on how much you spray and with the effects it has on the octane and the cooling temps, people who say they run 10s/11s on pump gas then I see an alky injection on their setup are just in denial. 10s on pump gas means just pump gas, nothing else.
Depending on how much you spray and with the effects it has on the octane and the cooling temps, people who say they run 10s/11s on pump gas then I see an alky injection on their setup are just in denial. 10s on pump gas means just pump gas, nothing else.
+1. I think you were the one who told me that a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by 4drwhore
pump gas + alky injection = race gas
Depending on how much you spray and with the effects it has on the octane and the cooling temps, people who say they run 10s/11s on pump gas then I see an alky injection on their setup are just in denial. 10s on pump gas means just pump gas, nothing else.
Depending on how much you spray and with the effects it has on the octane and the cooling temps, people who say they run 10s/11s on pump gas then I see an alky injection on their setup are just in denial. 10s on pump gas means just pump gas, nothing else.
The only denial I have is that I don't have to fill with race gas.
Someone is jealous cause thay have a slowazz ride.
What is the main point of this thread? The more liters (Displacement) the more power. To rev higher and this and that has to do with how the head is built or if we are comparing stock motor vs. stock motor. If you want more / easier power a 2.4 liter would be a good choice. Everything has advantages and disadvantages but nothing makes up for displacement.
Originally Posted by 44PIRATE
The idea behind running Alky and pump is: the mix is always the same. When you got to the track and get race gas, your mix isn't always constant. The thing with alky inj is that your always constant on octane value. Alky is power adder like nitrous. Better yet like crack.
The only denial I have is that I don't have to fill with race gas.
Someone is jealous cause thay have a slowazz ride.
The only denial I have is that I don't have to fill with race gas.
Someone is jealous cause thay have a slowazz ride.
I'm not jealous but don't preach whats not the truth
Originally Posted by AnTman86T
What is the main point of this thread? The more liters (Displacement) the more power. To rev higher and this and that has to do with how the head is built or if we are comparing stock motor vs. stock motor. If you want more / easier power a 2.4 liter would be a good choice. Everything has advantages and disadvantages but nothing makes up for displacement.
Oh yea nothing replaces displacement? Tell that to shep who is running 8.4s at over 177mph vs cars that have more displacement with auto trans who are running slower and not making as much power with more stuff. I think it is to be said that a setup tuned pretty much perfect can be better then displacement.
Last edited by Ian MMF; Aug 12, 2005 at 06:42 PM.
Originally Posted by 44PIRATE
The idea behind running Alky and pump is: the mix is always the same. When you got to the track and get race gas, your mix isn't always constant. The thing with alky inj is that your always constant on octane value. Alky is power adder like nitrous. Better yet like crack.
The only denial I have is that I don't have to fill with race gas.
Someone is jealous cause thay have a slowazz ride.
The only denial I have is that I don't have to fill with race gas.
Someone is jealous cause thay have a slowazz ride.
Lmao@George....
[QUOTE=4drwhore]How is it not the same mixture when you get it from the same place and same octaine all the time? I would be more worried about what kind of corn oil they put in at 7-11 this time around. Most people run pump gas+ alky because its CHEAPER and lowers intake temps vs expensive race gas and hot intake temps. Not about mixtures.
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When you put in race gas, you must have some pump gas in the tank, how much exactly, who knows it's a guess. So your guessing at your octane level. With alky your always tuned to run. If you've gone to the track and put race gas in there, you would have noticed how your tune is always needing tweeking. Where as with alky it's tuned right all the time.
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I'm not jealous but don't preach whats not the truth
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Oh I forgot, your a mechanic, so what you preach is the truth
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The purpose is of this thread is not for people who have no mitsu tech experience or knowledge to come in and question what the topic is about.
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What makes you think I don't have any knowledge or tech experience? My daddy didn't buy me my car and fix shit for me.
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Oh yea nothing replaces displacement? Tell that to shep who is running 8.4s at over 177mph vs cars that have more displacement with auto trans who are running slower and not making as much power with more stuff. I think it is to be said that a setup tuned pretty much perfect can be better then displacement.[/QUOTE
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2.3 all the way
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When you put in race gas, you must have some pump gas in the tank, how much exactly, who knows it's a guess. So your guessing at your octane level. With alky your always tuned to run. If you've gone to the track and put race gas in there, you would have noticed how your tune is always needing tweeking. Where as with alky it's tuned right all the time.
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I'm not jealous but don't preach whats not the truth
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Oh I forgot, your a mechanic, so what you preach is the truth
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The purpose is of this thread is not for people who have no mitsu tech experience or knowledge to come in and question what the topic is about.
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What makes you think I don't have any knowledge or tech experience? My daddy didn't buy me my car and fix shit for me.
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Oh yea nothing replaces displacement? Tell that to shep who is running 8.4s at over 177mph vs cars that have more displacement with auto trans who are running slower and not making as much power with more stuff. I think it is to be said that a setup tuned pretty much perfect can be better then displacement.[/QUOTE
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2.3 all the way


