Type-R vs GSR
The pr3's came in usdm b16's and first gen jdm b16's. The p30's only came in second gen jdm b16's. The reason that the b16 pistons give you a higher comp ratio is because the b16's have a lower compression height compared to the b18 blocks. When you put them in a b18, the higher comp height bumps the compression up higher than you'd get in a b16 block. The pr3's will put you at around 11.5:1 and the p30's will get you up in the 12:1-12.5:1 range. You can run 12.5:1 compression on 93oct without and problems. It will give you the most HP/TRQ on 93oct. I ran 12.5:1 on a lsV about 5yrs ago and made 214whp with CTR cams and a P&P b16 head. It was a sweet NA setup. Pegged rev limit from a roll in 1st once vtak cracked at 4400, with 205/50/15's. Also, running the highest comp that you can still run 93oct allows you to get a race gas tune and get another 10-15whp whenever you put race gas in your tank and just swap the pump gas chip with the race gas chip.
bcIII is a mean cam designed for road course use. broad useable power its its goal, hence your vtec crossover is not very noticeable bc the primaries are similar to the secondary lobes (much like an h22). thus, you get more area under the curve and a slight upgrade over itr cams. skunk2 stage 2 cams are a great street cam, but it sacrifices some midrange to the itr bc of its larger profile. the beauty of itr cams is their broad area of power. they may not make the same peak numbers, but they will make more power at a lower rpm before the s2stg2 cams pass them up. just my thoughts.
and by the way, its hard to believe that an lsv with 12.5:1 compression on p30 pistons and ctr cams made 214 at the wheels. its hard enough to get a 2l setup to make 200 n/a hp on ctr cams with that compression, let alone 14 more whp.
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^an ITR head has a cleanup polish just inside the runners. The combustion chamber is EXACTLY the same as a b16 head. I wasn't running p30 pistons and the b16 head didn't have stock runners or combustion chambers. I admit, my quick guesstimate was a bit high for the b16 pistons. Although, 12:1+ is just a .030" mill on the head away. .030" bumps the comp approx 1 full point. Many people on here can vouch for my old LSV. It was one of the fastest DA's in the area at the time. Also, with a proper header, 200whp on ctr cams is not a feat.
Last edited by juiced2ndgenteg; Oct 18, 2009 at 09:35 PM.
200 whp on ctr cams can be done, but not very easily witha 1.8l motor. was your setup bored to 84mm perhaps? yes b16 and itr heads are from the same casting so they have similar combustion chambers, but thats it. its got a mild port job and a better angled valve job like you said, and better cams, valve train, valves, and lma's. the GSR head has smaller combustion chambers. thus, about .3 or so extra compression (i forget exactly how much.)
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