i understand, but what about the b16 pistons on eagle rods?

im not getting rid of those rods lol and they already have the arp bolts on them.

 

arp bolts are cheap. u can sell the rods, still buy the bolts, pistons, rings, n bearings, and have money left over.

 

but im sayin wouldnt eagle rods hold up better then ls rods on arp bolts?

 

Forged pistons will hold up better then cast pistons. A sleeved block will hold up better then a factory block.... Its all about money

 

If you run the eagles then run forged pistons. The factory cast style piston will blow out way before a factory rod with ARP bolts that has been reconditioned properly. I wouldn't even worry about shotpeening them.

 

^^ exactly what i said...he doesnt seem to care...hes stuck on using his fancy rods. he said he wants to use the h-beans so he doesnt get a spun bearing. which doesnt make much sense...he has the h-beams built up in his head as really really cool hes gonna put em in no matter what we say...prolly just so he can say he has a "built motor"

 

money is right, i want to do it right but no go all out, and most of you can say what you want about the "h-beams" but i have them and might as well use them.

I dont see how it would be too high of compression using ctr pistons, i called 3 shops, yonke racing, lht, and driven concepts all 3 didnt see the problem 11:5 compression doesnt need race gas, its when u get in the 12's maybe worry about that.

The whole reason i started this thread is to see if it was possible to do on an ls block, but thanks for all the info.

 

you sir have to hook me up with that tune!

 

ctr pistons will put u into the 12's. ITR pistons will not. use a compression calculator if you dont believe us. your wasting your time with those rods. u might as well sell those and get forged pistons. the oem pistons are much more proned to problems than the stock rods. we are givin u advise man. if ur gonna go n/a with spray u would be better off using forged pistons on oem rods. with arp bolts your not going to spin a bearing.

with a b16 head and ctr pistons your at 11.9:1 compression, and with a gsr head its 12.2:1 compression. with the usdm itr pistons its 11.0:1 with a gsr head and 10.8:1 with a b16 head. jdm itr will be slightly higher and b16 pistons will be a tad higher than jdm type r's as well. i used this to figure it all out Compression Calculator - Honda, Acura Tech Website, tutorials, tuning and HOW-TO's. Drag racing, street racing, road racing - C-speedracing.com .

u can either fully build it or just rebuild with oem parts. either way there isnt gonna be a problem with your bottom end. mynes been running for just about a year now and its been beat on regularly....all oem too. but there shouldnt be an in-between in building a motor. u either go all forged or all oem. the only exception is forged pistons on stock rods. :end rant:

 

i did the calculator, but im going to use the ls head, which lowers the compression to 11:4 with ctr b16b pistons, running a vtec head would put me in the low 12's.

i will think about selling them possibly, but im still keeping my mind open