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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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I am planning on going vtec in my 92 integra, has an ls, would it be safer and/or faster to just get an LS vtec or get a GSr, i hear all these negative things about the ls vtec setup, so i thought I would ask...but which one would make more power? Which one most reliable? Bigger bang for the buck...
I had a crxc with a JDM B16 and liked it alot I was almost thinking of getting one of those but why decrease size in motor?

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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go with the gsr because ls/vtec doesnt work
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Your car is already an LS so just go just make it VTEC!!
Only advice is you get what you pay for! You cant skimp on a LS/VTEC build or else you will be regreting it in a matter of days! GSR is an easier route but wont be as fast unless you planning to go boost
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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first of all...you already have a ls! why would you spend more money and get a gsr? unless your rich yea go ahead..anyways if i was you i would keep the ls and slap a b16 head on it.

go with the gsr because ls/vtec doesnt work
thats because the moron you know or seen that build his doesnt know how to. to succesfully build a ls-vtec that is "reliable" you need to swichout the rods and pistons. shit alteast the rods. hope this helps.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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What all internally should I do to make it a reliable car still with ls vtec?
I need this to be a daily driver...
Say I put a b16 head on block what needs to be done to make this work and last like a normal honda motor...
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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And if I decide to do the GSR motor...will it be alot slower , I am willing to spend the extra money on the GSR if it will last and is roughly the same power as ls vtec...
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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There is nothing wrong with lsvtec motors the only problem is when in-experienced people try to put them together. I've built a few lsvtecs over the last 8 years and they all ran well. Bare minimum I would do:

Block:
-Oversized b16 pistons or ITR pistons (b16 = 11.5:1, ITR = 11:1). ITR pistons need to be machined to fit ls rods though
-New vtec oil pump and water pump, GSR timing belt
-ARP rod bolts on stock rods, resized big ends
-New properly sized bearings
-For simplicity a GE vtec conversion kit.
-New seals and gaskets throughout

Head:
-Good three angle valve job w/ proper backcuts on stock valves
-new valve seals
-mill head minimum amount for straightness
-plug vtec oil port in head mating surface
-new seals and gaskets throughout

That will give you a nice reliable setup with streetable compression and room for upgrades. I put together this same setup for a friend and the car is making about 195ish to the wheels w/ itr cams, comptech header and JG intake manifold.
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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KJ
There is nothing wrong with lsvtec motors the only problem is when in-experienced people try to put them together. I've built a few lsvtecs over the last 8 years and they all ran well. Bare minimum I would do:

Block:
-Oversized b16 pistons or ITR pistons (b16 = 11.5:1, ITR = 11:1). ITR pistons need to be machined to fit ls rods though
-New vtec oil pump and water pump, GSR timing belt
-ARP rod bolts on stock rods, resized big ends
-New properly sized bearings
-For simplicity a GE vtec conversion kit.
-New seals and gaskets throughout

Head:
-Good three angle valve job w/ proper backcuts on stock valves
-new valve seals
-mill head minimum amount for straightness
-plug vtec oil port in head mating surface
-new seals and gaskets throughout

That will give you a nice reliable setup with streetable compression and room for upgrades. I put together this same setup for a friend and the car is making about 195ish to the wheels w/ itr cams, comptech header and JG intake manifold.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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it'll all feel slow with a LS gearbox. if you want to feel faster, get a b16 or gsr box, and spend a WHOLE LOT OF TIME learning about various engine builds. it will feel sooo nice in the meantime, while you research what you want to do. a stock gsr is WAY cheaper than building your LS into a LS/VTEC properly, and you dont have to pay for the custom tuning right away- just run a p72. There are, however, many advantages to building a custom engine...you just need to engineer it right.
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Old Jun 8, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VwDevon
go with the gsr because ls/vtec doesnt work
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