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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by `92CXhatch
ok here is my thoughts on skimming over this thread... P28=shitty... good computer... but i always love my knock sensor... dont look at it as a pain in the ass... she, the knock sensor, is your friend ... LS/Vtec=BIG thumbs down... if you need a reason why please feel free to search... as for the butterfly problem... one of two things can be done... pull the vacum line off the solinoid (sp?) and then they will stay open... or replace the manifold... also just so you know i would run a p72 or a p30 both have knock sensors...
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ok dumb question, why do you want a knock sensor and if I have a P28 can a p72 ECM plug and play in the stock harness or does it require some rewireing ? most people run the P28 just because its a so diverese ECM ?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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The knock sensor is a very good sensor to have. It is basicly a microphone for the ecm to listen for detonation, or knock, and depending on the severity of it, retard the ignition timing accordingly to prevent engine damage. P28 and P72 have the same connections. The p72 is desirable because it is fairly easy to get, has vtec, and is easily chipped to run the b series vtec motors. You can get a p28 cheaper than a p72 in most cases.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 04:49 PM
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its probably already been established but obd1 is the way to go
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by UnderPSI
The knock sensor is a very good sensor to have. It is basicly a microphone for the ecm to listen for detonation, or knock, and depending on the severity of it, retard the ignition timing accordingly to prevent engine damage. P28 and P72 have the same connections. The p72 is desirable because it is fairly easy to get, has vtec, and is easily chipped to run the b series vtec motors. You can get a p28 cheaper than a p72 in most cases.

well what if you have a P28 will it work or is it just a smart idea to plug and play a P72 and wire a knock sensor ?
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by `92CXhatch
ok here is my thoughts on skimming over this thread... P28=shitty... good computer... but i always love my knock sensor... dont look at it as a pain in the ass... she, the knock sensor, is your friend ... LS/Vtec=BIG thumbs down... if you need a reason why please feel free to search... as for the butterfly problem... one of two things can be done... pull the vacum line off the solinoid (sp?) and then they will stay open... or replace the manifold... also just so you know i would run a p72 or a p30 both have knock sensors...
-Keith
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right now i have an p06 chipped by kenji..the ecu is great off the line but i'm having problem with my secondary butterfly..i was gonna to get an skunk2 IM...since you say pull the vaccum line off the solinoid...will that effect anything by leaven the vaccum line off...
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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The secondaries will stay open by default unless vacuum is suplied to the diaphram. If you remove the vacuume line from the diphram, just plug it up so you don't have a vacuum leak. When the rpm's reach 5750, the ecm turns off the iab solenoid and no longer supplies vacuum to the diaphram causing it to open. When the secondaries are closed, (vacuum suplied to diaphram), the intake path is longer and more narrow and aids in the production of more torque at lower rpms (below 5750). If you leave them open all the time, you may feel a slight decrease in power at lower rpms or a bog after vtec cross over. If I leave mine open all the time it bogs around 5000 to 5500 and as soon as it hits 6000 it takes off again. Although mine is a b16 block, the b18 may react different.
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by UnderPSI
The secondaries will stay open by default unless vacuum is suplied to the diaphram. If you remove the vacuume line from the diphram, just plug it up so you don't have a vacuum leak. When the rpm's reach 5750, the ecm turns off the iab solenoid and no longer supplies vacuum to the diaphram causing it to open. When the secondaries are closed, (vacuum suplied to diaphram), the intake path is longer and more narrow and aids in the production of more torque at lower rpms (below 5750). If you leave them open all the time, you may feel a slight decrease in power at lower rpms or a bog after vtec cross over. If I leave mine open all the time it bogs around 5000 to 5500 and as soon as it hits 6000 it takes off again. Although mine is a b16 block, the b18 may react different.
problem solved with an AM intake manny !
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by UnderPSI
The secondaries will stay open by default unless vacuum is suplied to the diaphram. If you remove the vacuume line from the diphram, just plug it up so you don't have a vacuum leak. When the rpm's reach 5750, the ecm turns off the iab solenoid and no longer supplies vacuum to the diaphram causing it to open. When the secondaries are closed, (vacuum suplied to diaphram), the intake path is longer and more narrow and aids in the production of more torque at lower rpms (below 5750). If you leave them open all the time, you may feel a slight decrease in power at lower rpms or a bog after vtec cross over. If I leave mine open all the time it bogs around 5000 to 5500 and as soon as it hits 6000 it takes off again. Although mine is a b16 block, the b18 may react different.
thanks for the infor..do you have a pic. diagram showing all these parts located on the b18...
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