Love how you use part of my post to justify saying that.... If you would read ALL of what I said you would see my decision is also based off of personal experience.... good job trying though....

 

I defined "right after" was 1/2 tank after I bought some E10, motor had 45k on it.

Rubbers designed for gasoline are not designed for ethanol. FlexFuel vehicles arent just equipped with a sensor to measure alcohol content and adjust timing as needed. They have a stainless fuel tank, teflon coated fuel lines, different injectors, different o rings, different intake manifold gaskets, different spark plugs, and different O2 sensors.

SO. How am I expected to run this in a vehicle not equipped with such things? The manufacturers feel they are needed to safely run ethanol fuels, and you know damn well a car company wouldn't add money to a vehicle where they don't have to.

You can run it all you like, and you can eat the costs of less mileage, lower performance, and more frequent repairs. I choose not to.

 

Its no use guys.
did you know, he is right. He is always right. He has always been right. He will always be right. He's never been wrong since birth and will continue to never be wrong. We should envy his rightness. Perhaps, if we worked really hard at it, we could be as right as he is.

to those with their head out of their asses, good luck finding stations that still sell real fuel. When you do, make sure you spread the word about their location. That way we can keep that station's business up and possibly keep them from doing the switch.

 

refue to respond to this post for fear of bad karma.... that bitch would hate to hear what I have to say... she already hates me enough...

 

I just called her up, she said that sinec she already knows what you are going to say, she said that she agrees with you, so it is ok to post it....

 

Nah, not worth the time to post it...

 

sorry but 10% ethanol isn't a 6 molarity nitric acid

Your 0-rings were about to leak anyhow, IF you had just filled up on the e10...shit, straight methanol takes a long as time to eat through rubber. I've run E85 on a walbro 190, siemens off the shelf injectors, aluminum rail and regulator and NEVER had a leak on the system. Its been this way for 2 years and sits for long periods of time (worst for systems as it then gets time to eat the material).

so your statement = my ass off


Now being the foremost "expert" out of the group at hand and having tested ethanol (as well as other such fuels) in a both chemistry and IC engines labs, taking courses (and TA'ing) courses on IC enignes, sitting through invitation lectures and reading many SAE papers on it (as a professional SAE member). Hell, IC engines are part of my degree.


So, with that said, E10 will yield a slightly worse gas mileage. Over my 2 years of running it, I had noticed a 1-2 mpg drop in my mileage, as is expected. I will also state that I have yet to hear of anyone having an issue with e10 as part of there fuel system. This being my connections to bass clubs (boat engines and lots of them), working at 2 performance shops, many friends who run garages and shit tons of people who are "car guys" anyhow. Hell even the little old ladies at my church who come to me for car help haven't had any issues...as usual people are blowing shit out of proportion with a lack of knowledge and experience on the subject. It can but most likely won't give you any trouble (anytime soon).

 

your personal experiances mean nothing to me thats why i didnt include them. you dont know enough about the things you are talking about for your personal opinion to matter. you have not conducted any tests on rubber in E10 and E0. all you know is that you feel a perfomance change. ever put yer car on a dyno to see the actual differance? i think not. i have compared dyno charts posted my reputable people who actually own the dynos comparing hp on E10 and E0. (these were in a piston engine). yes i know its going to be differant from car to car because of a slue of factors. but on average most of that be tuned away by having the fuel maps tuned based on E10 (since i doubt its going to go away anytime soon)

point being: if your losing that much money in gas and that much performance spend the money to get it tuned on E10 and youll get MOST of it back. or dont and deal with your decision like a big girl.

 

so again you are reaffirming the point I've tried to make several times. To get any benefit from it you have to have an engine, or at least fuel system set up for it. and yes, that includes the tune too...
hell, earlier you said that to get benefit from it out of a rotory you need to rebuild, boost, and tune.
I think you are doing that "i've got my head in my ass, therefore I'm only going to pay attention to half of what you are saying" thing...
We should have known better than to expect anything different, you've been doing that for a very long time...

 

All I know is, when I use gas stations with e10... I get huge fire balls when I shift... But when I use none e10 stations, I dont get them... Im not complaining though... I love going to 5k and scaring the shit out of people!