^ good said i agree with edmel89... i would have to say thats the best arguement said. theyre both cool cars but i favor hondas the most just cuz i like the style. i actually almost traded my gsr hatch for a 99 gst but loved my honda too much to see her go not cuz i was trading for a dsm. now i got my blue b16 4dr and im too atached

 

all i know is that i got a dsm to run high 12s with spending $1200 including the car,i dont know if you can do that to a honda myabe im wrong

 

exactly what i was going to say; most people see dsms unreliable because they are always breaking this and that but you have to put into consideration most of the ones you see out there are older than you almost. factory turbo'd cars that were probably ragged on for over 10 years and they are still running around town. ive seen some people with stock 4g63 blocks making insane power and old as dirt. Hondas are yea reliable stock but like some people stated start building it up or slap a turbo kit on it and the problems will arise. So i dont think that dsm's are a POS they are just old cars that have been beaten on for years but i rather have a honda any day, i like the slowness!!!!

 

1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T 7.4 15.9
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T (Auto) 7.4 15.5 (MT June, 94)
1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.9 15.2
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 7.0 15.3
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Turbo 6.7 15.3 (MT Sept, 92)
1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.8 15.2
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 9.0 16.6
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.4 14.9

1991 Honda Civic EX Sedan 9.7 17.2
1992 Honda Civic EX Sedan 9.4 17.0
1992 Honda Civic Si 8.5 16.4
1992 Honda Civic Si Hatchback 8.4 16.5
1999 Honda Civic Si 7.5 15.7
2002 Honda Civic Si 7.6 15.8 (R&T July '02)
1993 Honda Civic Coupe EX 8.4 16.5
1993 Honda Civic del Sol Si 8.8 16.8
1994 Honda Civic del Sol VTEC 7.4 15.8
1994 Honda Civic EX Sedan 8.8 16.8
1995 Honda Civic EX 8.8 16.8
1996 Honda Civic Coupe HX 9.4 17.1
1996 Honda Civic EX Sedan 10.5 17.6
1996 Honda Civic DX 8.5 16.7 (C&D June, 96)
1996 Honda Civic LX Sedan 9.4 17.2
1998 Honda Civic GX (CNG.) 11.9 18.1
2000 Honda Civic EX Coupe 8.4 16.7
1984 Honda (Civic) CRX 10.1 17.6
1986 Honda (Civic) CRX Si 8.7 16.7
1988 Honda CRX Si 8.2 16.4
1991 Honda CRX Si 8.7 16.5


Lets look at current models:
2006 Honda Civic SI 7.2 15.1 (Edmonds)
2006 Honda Civic Si 6.3 14.9 (MotorTrend.com)
1997 Acura Integra Type R 6.5 14.7

2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 5.1 13.5
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 4.8 13.4
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 4.5 13.3

 

duh, DSM <3


No argument. If I wanted a fast stock car I would pick up a DSM. If I wanted a beater to get me around I would get a Honda (and dark tint).

 

Yea with alot of nitrous and zipties.With a gsx it has been done with a sawzaw to the exhaust,$10 ebay mbc, and a hard launch.

 

i traded a turbo i had for my 1g talon and i bet it woulda broke 13s how it was. and that engine was a total peice of shit. bone stock except a 20g slapped on, the balance shafts were shot and it had 120psi in two cylinders. i didnt even have a boostgauge haha. now its a whole other story. i expect 11s and it will be my daily.

 

end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

i definitely know how that feels

 

none of those old civics you mentioned came with DOHC, you didnt mention the SI-R civic from the 90's

what are there numbers?