the aud/vdub unit in the new TT and Golf uses two seprate clutches and a syncro type gearbox. but it can shift automatically for you.

 

People have been saying that since the Hydra-matic came out in 1940.

I think the standard will be around until those people who enjoy complete control of their machine no longer exist, whenever that may be. The enjoyment and skill of engaging a standard at precisely the right time is much more rewarding than anything auto has to offer.

And paddle shifters are for...well, nevermind ladies.

 

Who wins in races is important to me only in judging which is a "superior car"..however if I were to actually own said car, I'd want the most fun I could get out of it.

It was in either shift mode 4 or 5. I had very little time at all and since it wasnt my own personal car, I wasnt going to turn off traction control and be a dumbass with it, just see what it was capable of (so I didnt have it in S6 or whatever). I do approve of the differential though; I really miss having an LSD on my DD.

The funny thing about it all is that I was extremely disappointed about it yet its probably the best all around car I've ever been in..it felt like an extremely refined 5/3s scale Miata with better seats and steering wheel and such, among other things. Its definitely not fair for me to judge it comparatively considering that it had adapted to the owner's driving style, which clearly wasnt the style I was driving it in (though by no means dangerous).

The SMG could be faster, but I still prefer traditional manuals, especially with how often we'd have random SMG cars come in and have to reprogram it (and listen to it destroy syncros) and/or replace the hydraulic clutch actuator thing...

But yeah, the 997 Turbo tiptronic's 0-60 is 3.4 instead of the manual's 3.7..so its clear that manuals are at a disadvantage now.

 

Yea, I like the way the clutch feels when I push it in, and having to move the shifter over with my right hand. It's a feeling I prefer over all the newer, more advanced stuff. It's not about being faster, or more technological, just about that old style feeling. I prefer to do the extra work myself, I get more of a reward.

 

you guys need to stop confusing autos with paddle shifters with manuals without a clutch pedals. The first one sucks, my friends 350z has it and its just an automatic tranny with a gimmick. The 2nd one is cool, my friend has this on his gti. I honestly wouldnt mind my next car to have a smg tranny...i think...but def not auto with a torque converter

 

SMG - BMW

DSG - VW

Though I think they are very simmilar, Ive heard the DSG is alot better than the SMG or atleast the older SMG's that came on the E46 M3's.

Nissan has a pretty cool Paddle shifted manual. The one on the G37 Ive read is on par with the 335i's smg and the GT-R can hold its own against the 997's

and you cant forget toyotas 8speed semi auto in the LS-F! kinda sucks that its still a automatic so it uses a Torque converter, but it stays permantly locked in first and second when in sport mode.

 

The only cars like that are GT race cars and the like with sequentials. The have a clutch pedal for taking off but thats all its for, unless the computer fails and the driver has to downshift manually. I havent really heard of that in a car except for the Ascari something or other that has an M5 V8 matted to a full sequential gearbox. I think the older Mclaren GTR had somehting similar too.

 

Ive heard thr same thing. But Ive never driven a VW.


Again, I think some of you are still confusing automatic transmissions with SMGs. The 335 does not have SMG, only an automatic with paddle gimmicks. Not even close to being the same thing.

 

The DCT or Dual Clutch transmission, while it is more expensive than your regular transmission, are not as fragile as most people think. That come reputation comes from the CVT tranny, or gearless tranny, which is for now anyway the biggest pos for a tranny. Ford couldnt get them to last more than 75,000 miles in the 500. but the concept of perfectly smooth acceleration is nice for luxury cars.

As far as the DCT, not to thrilled about it, it is a minor scale of the 7 speed DCT they use in F1, but for the commercial market it has along way to go. And it's nowhere close to as fast as a standard in the hands of a good driver.

 

ok i think people are confused

Shiftronic and SMG are pretty dam diffrent

what one are we talking about here?

Shiftronic is the gayest shit ever made

SMG is really fun but BMW is the only ones who have the shit right and with lil to no problems

my $0.02