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Apr 15, 2004 | 06:07 AM

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Apr 15, 2004 | 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Vapor
I think a better thread would be "I think people who own Jeeps and SUV's when they dont need them are tools" but thats just my opinion.

What's with all the TR Hate lately? Not just from you, but from everyone. I just happened to quote you for other reasons. I don't get it. I read the original thread and I agree with SSpiro - why do people put 93 octane in their vehicle when it's not required? What is the purpose? Does it give even better gas mileage? Does it do something special for the car? I have no clue and was curious as well but then everyone got their panties in a bunch and it got locked - just as many other threads are getting locked on here lately. And to further illustrate your point Vapor - I own a Jeep and I need it. I need it to haul things (car parts, my dog and his carrier, groceries, luggage...the list goes on), to make long road trips that much easier to handle, and to have that extra security feeling. I'm scared to death of semi's and at least in my Jeep I feel thismuch safer. I also like having 4WD for those days after a good rain or rainy days when I need it. I don't think I'm a tool and I don't think that everyone that owns Jeeps and SUV's are. I think people that own riced out cars are tools, and I think you would agree with at least that.

He was just asking a question so that he could have some knowledge and insight on why people - especially those with 4cyl cars - use 93 octane if it is not required. That is all.

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Apr 15, 2004 | 07:53 AM

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Apr 15, 2004 | 07:54 AM

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subaru wagons > suvs

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Apr 15, 2004 | 08:01 AM

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any wagon > any SUV.......especially an S4 Avant.

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Apr 15, 2004 | 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Vapor
this is a well known fact that there are no advantages to running higher octane than specified by the auto maker. This doesnt apply to just 4 cylinders, which was my point. For example, my 93 240 calls for 87, so I put 87 in it. I have put 89 in it to see if it cleared up a hesitation in it, but in fact, it gave no benefit at all. I am running stock timing, so I have no need for it - just as many other cars dont.

However, as motors increase in age, carbon deposits and decreased exhaust system efficiency can induce detonation. Increasing octane in a situation like this can alleviate the problem.

The "TR hate" as you said, was the response to the stereo typing and name calling from the original poster of this thread. As to your SUV dilema, you can get all of the things you need minus your security blanket, from most sport wagons, with better gas efficiency, AND still have a fun time behind the wheel. Of course, most people just buy what looks cool, comfortable to them, and what their friends buy. By your own admission, you don't use an SUV like the Jeep for what it's perks are good for - off roading, towing. To make matters worse, that high ride height that makes you feel so safe actually makes you a greater canidate for a rollover in an accident. And I hate to burst your bubble, but when it comes to anything VS Semi trucks, short of a military vehicle, you don't stand a chance. Its that false sense of security that spread throughout the populous that is helping to clog up our roadways with massive chunks of metal hogging up a LOT more gas, driving up gas prices for all of us. But hey, at least you're safe!

I haven't had the chance to take it off roading "yet" since I work 60 hours, 7 days a week. I also haven't had the funds to get my Jeep prepared for towing since it didn't come with it when I purchased it last year. (I bought it used and all it's missing is a sun roof and a towing package - which would have helped us out when we moved earlier this year.) Now, my last Jeep (98 Cherokee Sport) was 4WD and I used it about once a week while I was in school. It helped get to many party locations off campus, in the woods, where only 4WD vehicles could get to. It also made for a great stress reliever and since there isn't much to do in DeLand - offroading was a great way to pass the time too. I know about rollover in SUV's, this isn't the first time I've owned one. I also know that I still don't stand a chance against a Semi but I feel just a little bit better being in my Jeep when there are a lot of semi's on the road, then my boyfriend's Integra. I have no false sense of secuirty. The road/highway is a dangerous place 24/7 and I do my best to be a safe driver. I agree that there are a lot of people out there that drive SUV's and don't really need to. I need it. I would never drive a wagon because #1 - it's not my style and #2 - I don't feel safe in them because of an accident I was in while driving my mom's old 88 Volvo turbo wagon in high school. Everyone has their preferance on what type of car they like. I like SUV's (Jeep's mainly) and I put it to the use that they are made for.

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Apr 15, 2004 | 08:41 AM

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My bike does not require 93 (87), but I still put 93 in. So what I'm gonna spend that extra dollah on better gas..I have noticed that it sounds much better with it than 87.

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Apr 15, 2004 | 09:34 AM

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I remember reading somewhere, that using higher octan than required is actually bad. It causes carbon buildups to occur quicker.

I could be and probably am out of my mind, but for some reason that stuck out to me

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Apr 15, 2004 | 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by Vapor
the same could be said for ANY car, why single out one demographic unit (4 cyl owners). So are you saying that if you own something other than a stock na 4 banger and your motor doesnt require premium, and you put in premium, you're NOT a tool?

I think a better thread would be "I think people who own Jeeps and SUV's when they dont need them are tools" but thats just my opinion.

Why does it matter if someone buys an SUV when they don't use it to their full potential? Since when has a person lost the right to buy whatever vehicle they want? Of course I'm sure you can turn that around on me and say "When has a person lost the right to put in premium when they don't need it".

Anyways I do need the SUV, if that comment was directed towards me.. I have a full family with a child and 2 ~100 lb dogs, as well as the need to have a larger vehicle to haul materials and product around.. I also have the need to feel safe, I need the ability to tow over 4000lbs, and I need the ability to drive offroad on construction sites, etc.. But I do not need to explain my life to you.

And in response to the first paragraph, the statement was made about 4cyl because that's what the conversation with my friend was about. Read the entire first thread and you'll know what I'm talking about.. but I guess the same could apply to V6 or V8 engines..

Only reason the topic confuses me is because I constantly see and hear people complain about how expensive gas is.. I ask what kind of gas, they say premium, I ask what kind of car, and they name some vehicle that only needs regular grade.. And If you argue with them, they freak out and get all pissy.

I just want to find out what I'm missing here.. Obviously if an engine is modded or swapped, or its older with some lost compression or high mileage, then premium may be a good idea.. I just want to learn, that's all. Maybe tool should have been left out of the thread title, but what's done is done.