Originally Posted by MISSINGSTANG

Yes the old m-16's have a spring in the barrel, ask anyone thats shot them in the prone position the fucking thing goes TWANG in your ear after every shot. As for the 12 ga, our shotguns are a catch 22 great stopping power but i havent see anyone shoot them and not have blood splotes under their skin the next day. The 14" barrel gives a HUGE kick. The funny thing is as soon as your done shooting the course they reload you w/ less than leathal ammo and run you through the same course of fire again. Only problem is the fucking thing kicks like a daisy air rifle. I love to watch new people shoot it cause you see them tense up and throw themselves into the gun anticipateing the shot then its like pfft. Everyone laughs, plus you can tell who's anticipateing the shot!!!!!

Originally Posted by 98DOHC

Are you talking about a m-16?

The M-4 i fired didnt have any spring in the stock. It had some recoil. When we bought ammo its was .223. Maybe im confusing it with a .022??? :confused: (The other smaller rifle we were shooting.) I'm no gun expert. You guys tell me. mm .cal whatever..lol When you said .22 i was think you ment a little pea shooter for some reason.

Originally Posted by vip18971

I never saw a tactical advantage in a solely pistol gripped shotgun. I'd rather have a pistol grip and a tactical butt-stock on it. Combine that with a 14 inch barrel and now you've got a potent weapon. I just never have the same kind of accuracy or grip when firing from the hip.