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Originally posted by SoL_93GT
Theres no way a carb and intake cost anywhere near a fuel injected intake, fuel injectors, throttle body, and mass air meter and or an aftermarket engine management system. You can only go so fast with a mass air meter before you have to ditch it and go with a high end speed density setup. I think it's a good idea if you're short on cash but I would personally like to be able to tune my car with a laptop even though it costs alot more, most instances would be double the cost.
$300 Victor Jr intake
$400-$1000 Holley 750 or race carb modified for blow through
$400-$700 efi intake
$300-$800 injectors
$300 throttle body
$300-$500 mass air meter
$1000-$2000 engine management system
Theres no way a carb and intake cost anywhere near a fuel injected intake, fuel injectors, throttle body, and mass air meter and or an aftermarket engine management system. You can only go so fast with a mass air meter before you have to ditch it and go with a high end speed density setup. I think it's a good idea if you're short on cash but I would personally like to be able to tune my car with a laptop even though it costs alot more, most instances would be double the cost.
$300 Victor Jr intake
$400-$1000 Holley 750 or race carb modified for blow through
$400-$700 efi intake
$300-$800 injectors
$300 throttle body
$300-$500 mass air meter
$1000-$2000 engine management system
$500 - good intake
$400 - good injectors
$200 - throttle body
$400 - Mass air meter
..thats ballpark. My point is, its not that far off through say mid 10s, at which point you could probably save some $ with carb. There are other perks to EFI as well, like the laptop tune that you mentioned. I remember getting a distributor "curved" back in the day - talk about an inexact science! Same thing for fuel - jets? It just seems like in the end, because of the tunability, EFI would be nicer.
All that said - you can go faster for less money overall with carb, but I feel that only really is true when your dipping down into the 9 second zone.
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Originally posted by Stangonline
$500 - good intake
$400 - good injectors
$200 - throttle body
$400 - Mass air meter
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$500 - good intake
$400 - good injectors
$200 - throttle body
$400 - Mass air meter
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all this money would much better be spent on port work.
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I had / have the money to spend on EFI but I just wanted something no one else had around here and was easier to work on. Turns out it also makes tons of power too. 
But good point that even some good efi stuff has its limitations before you must upgrade to stand alone systems.
Different strokes for different folks as long as in the end you are driving a Ford product.
But good point that even some good efi stuff has its limitations before you must upgrade to stand alone systems.
Different strokes for different folks as long as in the end you are driving a Ford product.
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Originally posted by Stangonline
Im talking about taking a car with EFI on it already. We both know that you can go plenty fast without an aftermarket computer and still have good drivability. Also, your number are way inflated.
$500 - good intake
$400 - good injectors
$200 - throttle body
$400 - Mass air meter
..thats ballpark. My point is, its not that far off through say mid 10s, at which point you could probably save some $ with carb. There are other perks to EFI as well, like the laptop tune that you mentioned. I remember getting a distributor "curved" back in the day - talk about an inexact science! Same thing for fuel - jets? It just seems like in the end, because of the tunability, EFI would be nicer.
All that said - you can go faster for less money overall with carb, but I feel that only really is true when your dipping down into the 9 second zone.
Im talking about taking a car with EFI on it already. We both know that you can go plenty fast without an aftermarket computer and still have good drivability. Also, your number are way inflated.
$500 - good intake
$400 - good injectors
$200 - throttle body
$400 - Mass air meter
..thats ballpark. My point is, its not that far off through say mid 10s, at which point you could probably save some $ with carb. There are other perks to EFI as well, like the laptop tune that you mentioned. I remember getting a distributor "curved" back in the day - talk about an inexact science! Same thing for fuel - jets? It just seems like in the end, because of the tunability, EFI would be nicer.
All that said - you can go faster for less money overall with carb, but I feel that only really is true when your dipping down into the 9 second zone.
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Originally posted by Scott
I had / have the money to spend on EFI but I just wanted something no one else had around here and was easier to work on. Turns out it also makes tons of power too.
But good point that even some good efi stuff has its limitations before you must upgrade to stand alone systems.
Different strokes for different folks as long as in the end you are driving a Ford product.
I had / have the money to spend on EFI but I just wanted something no one else had around here and was easier to work on. Turns out it also makes tons of power too.
But good point that even some good efi stuff has its limitations before you must upgrade to stand alone systems.
Different strokes for different folks as long as in the end you are driving a Ford product.
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My point is, it doesnt save you much at all if your running 11s, but if your running 9s, you can certainly get there cheaper with a carb setup.
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Originally posted by Stangonline
My point is, it doesnt save you much at all if your running 11s, but if your running 9s, you can certainly get there cheaper with a carb setup.
My point is, it doesnt save you much at all if your running 11s, but if your running 9s, you can certainly get there cheaper with a carb setup.
I agree, to a point
but if you only want to go 11's with a turbo blow thru you can do it very very cheap. Like no intercooler, cheap $200 carb, $50 intake, $300 turbo, and some othe misc. stuff. I did not go this route because I want to go much faster.You are right on though for a all out race car carn is pretty damn hard to beat dollar for dollar.
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Umm, you don't need to do anything to your motor to go 11's, just bolt on a turbo kit. 11's is boring. 
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One thing you guys aren't mentioning in the comparison is that just as in EFI, the faster you go, the more expensive the parts are. Sure you can go 10's on a Holley 750, just as you can go 10's with stock EFI. But when you go 8's, you're going to have a custom carb that's been gone through, and its going to be expensive. The same with an EFI setup. Its cheap to go fast with both systems and its expensive to go even faster with both systems.
