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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinmei2006
people dont buy these things for the speed alone....ferrari doesnt make drag racers

you're buying handling and performance where it counts

you're buying a name

you're buying luxury

you're buying something most people on TR couldnt afford...

pdisme has a gallardo...

but he also has a Radical sr3...

lets see your neon take those two on in a road course
Funny you meantioned that I've been a passenger in a 05' ACR SRT4 while its passed 360s, lambos ( all types ) porches ( my favorite ) and BMWs at seabring. Mods to the SRT4 was.... Kumbo road race tires and a K&N intake. Stock boost, stock brakes, pump gas, full weight.

Radical sr3 on the other hand... Prob. not gonna catch that thing, its like a a street bike with traction.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sourskittle
Funny you meantioned that I've been a passenger in a 05' ACR SRT4 while its passed 360s, lambos ( all types ) porches ( my favorite ) and BMWs at seabring. Mods to the SRT4 was.... Kumbo road race tires and a K&N intake. Stock boost, stock brakes, pump gas, full weight.

Radical sr3 on the other hand... Prob. not gonna catch that thing, its like a a street bike with traction.
did those exotic owners know how to drive?

the driver mod helps...

a dumbass in an expensive car will not beat a competent driver in a less expensive car...

and +1 on the Radical..those things are scary...
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shinmei2006
did those exotic owners know how to drive?

the driver mod helps...
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On one hand... I agree ( don't see 10 sourskittles running around do you ? Ok, that was a joke ). On the other hand... Which is more likely ?

A: Some guy in a stock SRT4 out driving 3 porche drivers, 3 ferrari drivers, 4 BMW drivers, and 1 Lambo driver...

Or

B: The SRT4 is a more road course worthy car than almost any one gives them creit for, and actully beat them.

Look at the class ( or than world speed challenge touring car ) the SCCA makes the SRT4 run in. Its racing, CTS-Vs, N/A cobra mustangs, F-body LS-1s, and other car that "should" totally out gun it. In that class, what is the SRT4 aloud to mod ? Suspension, few 100LBS.s of weight ( almost off set by the roll cage ), and yep.... ECU tuning, which BTW almost doesn't exsist for SRT4s.

All this above is way off topic, but since I was poked into highlighting it, hope everyone enjoys it.

I'd honestly have to say, the SRT4 is a BETTER road course car vs drag racer. And that's hard to say b/c I'm one shitty road course driver, and an fairly sure footed drag racer.

Magizines sell ferraris. Few Super cars let the REAL performance numbers sell themselves. I'm just glad not all supercars aren't magizine poster bitches, and some really are super ( Dodge, Chhhhheeeeevy, and ford have good exsamples, even if 2/3 have "strecthed" magizine time slips ).

5 year 100,000 warrenty is unreal too on a super car..
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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i'm gonna go with A...

put me in those exotics and i'll still lose to someone with experience in road course driving...

pdisme and chuck are the only 2 exotic owners on this board that i know can drive....

if you were to switch cars with chuck or pdisme and then ya'll raced sebring (esp. chuck) you'd definitely see the difference
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sourskittle
Another story... With a 300whp tune, I went DOOR TO DOOR on the interstate with a new lambo galardo ( you know which one ) upto 155mph WHERE HE LET OFF. My car was on pump gas, the way my wife drives it to work. $18K neon with a few bolts SHOULD NEVER BE CLOSE TO A $300K V10 "500+hp" "SUPER CAR" from a 50mph roll.
I'd pay to see you going door to door at 155 on the interstate in a Neon; sounds like some bench racing to me.

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Point is, I don't HATE super cars. I hate over priced, slow ass super cars.

If my neon can do everything a super car can, does it really mean he should be happy driving off in a lambo ? I damn sure wouldn't be. I bea pissed that I over paid by about $250K, can't get in and out the car, can't carry any cargo, can't fit more than 2 people, can't get an oil change for under $500, be pissed my tires cost $2500 for rubber, and be pissed I can't even drive on most streets b/c my $25K front bumper will get ripped off. Ole yea, and be pissed I get 8MPG, with 350whp And be pissed in general that my V10 super car doesn't have more than 350whp...

And I think its only nature a guy in a ferrari would pick on a prelude, vs most the other cars that would put his ass in the dirt...
I think you covered every supercar stereotype ever made in just one post; don't forget that all supercar drivers wear gold chains and polyester suits too. These cars are so not about everything you mentioned; those of us that have them could give a shit if the car won't hold two bags of groceries or would get passed in the 1/4 by a boosted <insert sub-$40k car here>, it's just not the point. I had the spyder out at Shephard's today, no one asked me what kind of mileage it got or if I could fit a 5-gallon Zephryhills in it.

As for the thread, yes, 360's are gay and slow. LOL
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Originally Posted by pdisme
I'd pay to see you going door to door at 155 on the interstate in a Neon; sounds like some bench racing to me.



I think you covered every supercar stereotype ever made in just one post; don't forget that all supercar drivers wear gold chains and polyester suits too. These cars are so not about everything you mentioned; those of us that have them could give a shit if the car won't hold two bags of groceries or would get passed in the 1/4 by a boosted <insert sub-$40k car here>, it's just not the point. I had the spyder out at Shephard's today, no one asked me what kind of mileage it got or if I could fit a 5-gallon Zephryhills in it.

As for the thread, yes, 360's are gay and slow. LOL
Hey I never said anything about the drivers. I happen to know some super car drivers that drive the shit out of the cars, and are good people.

"no one asked me what kind of mileage it got or if I could fit a 5-gallon Zephryhills in it. "

Well, that says it all in one big tub right there then, right ? A super car doesn't have to be super, just looked apon as super and that's what they are all about.

I mean, its kind like having a hot wife that you hate, and she hates you ( not meaning "you" as in talking about a specific person ), but she stays with you for your money, and you stay with her for her smoking hot looks. When you got out in public, everyone wonders what you have than attracts her that everyone else doesn't have. Who cares how happy she makes you, she looks great, and when she gets old, you can trader in ( I was talking about the car, but now you see my point ).

I guess, I'm going to have to go back on what I said... I don't REALLY hate super cars. I'm just cheap, and can't see spending the money on them as a means to go fast.

In the case of the pervous poster, I guess he's got both, which is great. Speed in one car, looks in another, and even a truck.

And... If you thing I'm bench racing.... Maybe you should do a search and find out just who the sourskittle is... I have more war storys in the last two years, then a lot of people have posts, and I usually have videos. In the case of the lambo, we were going from one racing spot to another, my friend broke down, I stopped at got seprated from the group. While trying to catch up with the group, I saw the lambo, and I was by myself ( although we did drive by a store that the group was at, and everyone saw me trying to get a 2nd gear race with him ). He wouldn't have any part of a lower speed race. Instead, he waited until he got right at the on ramp, and desided to leave me in the curve. One problem... My car was more super than he thought, and he didn't leave me at the on-ramp.

I never have, and never will post a fake war story. people can dislike my point of veiw on super cars, and that's fine, but doubt anything I post about racing b/c its fact, not wishful thinking. And if you didn't know, my sig. is a joke, it ran 11.94 without the nitrous.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sourskittle
"no one asked me what kind of mileage it got or if I could fit a 5-gallon Zephryhills in it. "

Well, that says it all in one big tub right there then, right ? A super car doesn't have to be super, just looked apon as super and that's what they are all about.

I mean, its kind like having a hot wife that you hate, and she hates you ( not meaning "you" as in talking about a specific person ), but she stays with you for your money, and you stay with her for her smoking hot looks. When you got out in public, everyone wonders what you have than attracts her that everyone else doesn't have. Who cares how happy she makes you, she looks great, and when she gets old, you can trader in ( I was talking about the car, but now you see my point ).
Not really a good analogy because a trophy wife's only purpose is looks, i.e. she's basically useless beyond that, but you missed my point. A super car, unlike the trophy wife, is super because it surpasses 99% of other cars' capabilities in multiple ways and you love it for the rewarding experience that it gives you. It's about the total package doing most things better than regular cars, well except getting in and out of parking lots with steep angles. I'm not trying to be pretentious but facts are that my Gallardo is going to be faster in ALL of 1/4 mile, top speed, cornering and braking than most cars while also looking incredible (my opinion), sounding incredible (again, my opinion) and doing it reliably for years to come, i.e. I'm not worrying about how much boost, nitrous and other shit I'm throwing at it that may or may not harm my vehicle. Are there cars that will be faster in the quarter? Always will be. Will they be faster around the track? Maybe yes to that too depending on length of straights versus number of corners; I've seen Miatas that can pull 1/2 g more than the Gallardo and would dominate it on a curvy track. Can they drive 150 miles to Sebring on pump gas and street tires, do a 2:30 lap and then drive home while looking as hot as a friggin Lamborghini convertible, being capable of hitting 160+ on the interstate and being as fun to drive? Doubtful. I mean seriously, you're saying that if money is not a consideration, you'd go with this:



instead of this:



because you don't think you're getting the value out of the supercar? (Apologies to Miata owners, just the first non-exotic non-racecar pic I found in my stash ) My Radical will make my Gallardo and your car look like a Krispy Kreme doughnut delivery truck on the track and it's not too shabby in the quarter either, but it is loud, physically challenging, no trunk, can't run longer than 80 minutes before it's out of gas and has a 50 mph slower top speed than the G, so it's not a super car, just a really bad ass track car that will put some whoop ass on most things that are within $250k of its price. The G will eat up most (not all) cars in most ways, 50 people will take pictures of it while it does it, teenagers will put posters of it on their bedroom walls like I did when I was a kid and cops will pull you over just to look at it, so that makes it super. I can tow 7000 pounds with my pickup and carry five people to 60 in just over 5 seconds in my g-wagen, the Lambo can't do either of those either, still super in my book.

Originally Posted by Sourskittle
I never have, and never will post a fake war story. people can dislike my point of veiw on super cars, and that's fine, but doubt anything I post about racing b/c its fact, not wishful thinking. And if you didn't know, my sig. is a joke, it ran 11.94 without the nitrous.
You'd be about 3/10th faster than my spyder in the quarter at that speed; I'll stick with my Lambo though and will still call it a supercar while I would call your car a "car that is very fast in the quarter mile" which at 11.9 it is quite fast compared to most cars out there, not trying to insult. If it's up to the task for track duty as well, bring it to Sebring on May 6th, there are still four solo spots available which you should be able to get if you have racing experience, we'll see how it stacks up in times to some of the 'supercars' that have run the track: Chin MotorSports Registration List
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Originally Posted by pdisme
Not really a good analogy because a trophy wife's only purpose is looks, i.e. she's basically useless beyond that, but you missed my point. A super car, unlike the trophy wife, is super because it surpasses 99% of other cars' capabilities in multiple ways and you love it for the rewarding experience that it gives you. It's about the total package doing most things better than regular cars, well except getting in and out of parking lots with steep angles. I'm not trying to be pretentious but facts are that my Gallardo is going to be faster in ALL of 1/4 mile, top speed, cornering and braking than most cars while also looking incredible (my opinion), sounding incredible (again, my opinion) and doing it reliably for years to come, i.e. I'm not worrying about how much boost, nitrous and other shit I'm throwing at it that may or may not harm my vehicle. Are there cars that will be faster in the quarter? Always will be. Will they be faster around the track? Maybe yes to that too depending on length of straights versus number of corners; I've seen Miatas that can pull 1/2 g more than the Gallardo and would dominate it on a curvy track. Can they drive 150 miles to Sebring on pump gas and street tires, do a 2:30 lap and then drive home while looking as hot as a friggin Lamborghini convertible, being capable of hitting 160+ on the interstate and being as fun to drive? Doubtful. I mean seriously, you're saying that if money is not a consideration, you'd go with this:



instead of this:



because you don't think you're getting the value out of the supercar? (Apologies to Miata owners, just the first non-exotic non-racecar pic I found in my stash ) My Radical will make my Gallardo and your car look like a Krispy Kreme doughnut delivery truck on the track and it's not too shabby in the quarter either, but it is loud, physically challenging, no trunk, can't run longer than 80 minutes before it's out of gas and has a 50 mph slower top speed than the G, so it's not a super car, just a really bad ass track car that will put some whoop ass on most things that are within $250k of its price. The G will eat up most (not all) cars in most ways, 50 people will take pictures of it while it does it, teenagers will put posters of it on their bedroom walls like I did when I was a kid and cops will pull you over just to look at it, so that makes it super. I can tow 7000 pounds with my pickup and carry five people to 60 in just over 5 seconds in my g-wagen, the Lambo can't do either of those either, still super in my book.



You'd be about 3/10th faster than my spyder in the quarter at that speed; I'll stick with my Lambo though and will still call it a supercar while I would call your car a "car that is very fast in the quarter mile" which at 11.9 it is quite fast compared to most cars out there, not trying to insult. If it's up to the task for track duty as well, bring it to Sebring on May 6th, there are still four solo spots available which you should be able to get if you have racing experience, we'll see how it stacks up in times to some of the 'supercars' that have run the track: Chin MotorSports Registration List

I think we get each other. And I've riden in one of the chin motorsports cars ( an N/A 90' M3, it was was great ).

Were you at BMP when it ran 12.2 ? When was it ? I might have saw it...
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Originally Posted by Sourskittle
I think we get each other. And I've riden in one of the chin motorsports cars ( an N/A 90' M3, it was was great ).

Were you at BMP when it ran 12.2 ? When was it ? I might have saw it...

If it was Verde Ithaca (lime green) then it was a friend's car from Sarasota, he has run between 11.9(something) and 12.2 on that track. I wasn't there though.
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Don't pay attention to us neon drivers. BTW I have ur car in my camera phone from driving around hillsborough... thought that was funny... I have a bright orange car too... mine was alot cheaper though.
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