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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheShow50h
Well said, however ...

Auto x's are showing mostly driver skill rather than the car's ability. I'm sure there are a couple z06's you could take against a less expierienced driver.

Saying you can take it on a auto x in a thread where a focus got walked is hardly proveable. Meaning, I'm not going to be going out to any auto x anytime soon just so we can find out .. although me and you both know an svt focus will outhandle a fox body, but that's not what this is about. It's about you falling back on an unproveable opinion of being able to take a new cobra on an auto x just because someone made a reference to your engines output.
Autocross racing is the great equalizer. While driver skill is a huge factor in the equation it is not the only factor. A car designed and engineered to perform well on a track that involves turns is certaily a helpful asset in autocross racing. Cobras make good track cars too, but it does take considerably more skill and/or effort to get one around a track fast. In comparison the SVTF is easy to drive fast. Its not about getting to speed fast, it's about maintaing the speed when you get there.

I could care less what people say about my engine's output, I do not need to defend my car, I didn't build it, I just bought it. As far as my unproveable opinion...I've turned faster times than late model Cobras in my '96 Altima SE. (I might be able to find some times printed somewhere...if I really have to proove it)
So, I'm quite confident I could do the same in my SVTF. Now don't get me wrong, I am not a Mustang hater by any stretch of the imagination. And, I certainly accept that I could even be bested by one at a race. But the SVTF has some great merits, dare I even say, some aspects that are even better than that of the Mustang.
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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by fastforward
I've turned faster times than late model Cobras in my '96 Altima SE. (I might be able to find some times printed somewhere...if I really have to proove it
See, that doesn't really mean anything other than your a really good driver/know the course or the other guy is a poor driver that isn't familiar with the track. That's why auto-x is hard to measure a car's ability because it's all in the driver.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not any kind of car hater, I like anything fast ... in whatever type of driving it is.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by TheShow50h
See, that doesn't really mean anything other than your a really good driver/know the course or the other guy is a poor driver that isn't familiar with the track. That's why auto-x is hard to measure a car's ability because it's all in the driver.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not any kind of car hater, I like anything fast ... in whatever type of driving it is.
I suppose we are arguing the same point, I guess what I am trying to say is...that a good driver in a SVT Focus can still be competitive against a good driver in a Mustang Cobra on a course with turns.
While unequal in straight line performance, on a roadcourse the little SVTF can hold its own. So while 170 HP is not "whoping" in the power department (but is plenty adequate for it's weight), the SVT Focus is certainly whoping in the handeling and braking department. This coupled with its high reving engine and close ratio tranny is what makes it "fast" on a course.
Too many people pigeon-hole a car into a slow category just because it sucks at the strip.

Thats why I say fast is relative. But then thats what slow car drivers always say, right?
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