like i said before, you don't need a clip or an ecu/harness, if your doing something custom and plan on using STANDALONE then you can get by with just a motor set. whats so hard about getting a gen 3 engine/tranny combo with a cut harness. and it shouldnt be 2200 dollars. and if it is going into a celica you get a FE tranny that are in like 1,000,000 celica's and beat the shit out of it. and if the tranny breaks go to cophers and get another one for $40. the end. sw20 owners like to make things more complicated then they need to be. $1500 for stanalone, hahahhaah!!! megasquirt is like half that and just as good if you let Enthalpy tune it.

DON"T GIVE UP MAX, come join the DARK SIDE.

 

for a full megasquirt II with all the sensors AND enthalpy dyno tuning I'm figuring you could get away for 600-700 ish..

Just a footnote.

 

Hachibill go shop for a Gen 3 longblock and tell me what you find.. If you even find one at all. 2200 shipped is the cheapest you can find for a low mileage longblock with a good turbo.

S13 owners are always trying to make things cheaper then they seem, because they are used to the nissan civic.

 

Ran across a caldina i think its called. What's the scoop on these?

 

yeah, thats why the s13 is my only non-toyota i've owned. yes 240's are cheap, but if you shop aound you can find a deal on anything if you know were to look.

maxx, the caldina is the motor you want. its basicallly a 4wd wagon version of the celica. baddass.

 

Caldena has a 4th Gen 3SGTE 260ps. That swap would be wiring fun. It's basically the same as a 3rd Gen, the boost is upped to 14psi stock. That's where you get the raised power.

 

So your saying that the only difference is the raised limit for boost? So in essence the celica and caldina would have the same power output at the same boost levels? If so, how do you know this is the only difference? Not saying you don't know your stuff....just curious.
Also, if going with a standalone wouldn't the wireing issue bw a non-issue seeing how your starting from scratch?


Thanks for all your help and feedback so far guys. This is great.

 

If you go with the stock ecu, you will have to do some wiring on the body harness connector. You will hopefully be able to open up the ecu to mate the wires up. As for a stand alone, you can't exactly buy a stand alone that has precut wires for 3SGTE in a celica. So there will be plenty of wiring if you go that route.

Just out of curiosity, is the mega squirt a piggy back or an actually stand alone that replaces the factory ecu? For that price I would think it was a piggy back just like an S-AFC or S-ITC.

 

Well it has the raised boost, and the factory ECU has the tuning for that boost. What really makes it classified as a Gen 4 is the ECU. I imagine the turbo actuater is different too. I read this information on a european site that I can't find the link to right now.

This motor won't come with the mounts you need, you will need alltrac mounts. Also if you plan to keep the factory water to air intercooler, you will need to salvage a heat exchanger from a jdm alltrac, or purchase another one and custom make lines for it and mounting brackets. I am almost positive you are also going to need alltrac front hubs, unless you are going to use the weak 5SFE axles. I mean you could use the 5SFE transmission, but it would sure be nice to have LSD with the MR2 transmission, not to mention the longer gear ratios. The 5SFE transmission will top you out at around 140-145mph.

 

Mark. The megasquirt is a complete standalone.

http://www.megasquirt.info/ms2/index.htm

Info is there

In order to have it be a full standalone you need to order the Megasquirt II which does fuel and spark. It dosent have a lot of snazzy extras, but neither does SDS and SDS is 1650.

The only 2 EMS's I would use are Megasquirt for the low end, and AEM for the high end.