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right on with the SHO remark. Yamaha is the world leader in head design IMO. i would put the yamaha tuning star logo on my supra but some kid in a civic would think its rice and probably wouldnt understand. i would have to boost on that ass and get a ticket most likly
my brother had a R6 with a Yamaha racing devolopment ported head(how he got it i dont know) it dynoed at something like 130hp. OUT OF A SIX HUNDRED CC MOTOR!!!
for me the 1jz is a match made in heaven. TOYOTA
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my brother had a R6 with a Yamaha racing devolopment ported head(how he got it i dont know) it dynoed at something like 130hp. OUT OF A SIX HUNDRED CC MOTOR!!!for me the 1jz is a match made in heaven. TOYOTA
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concerning the yamaha head on 2j(stock) i dont think so. i hear it was getting too expensive for a production motor. not sure but thats wat i herd.
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Agent - show me real numbers from a 1JZ.... show me why a 1JZ is better than a 2JZ, show me real proof. None of the 1JZ guys are putting good reliable strong numbers as opposed to the 2JZ. When I get another MK3 I will be also doing a 1JZ swap but not because I think they are any better than the 2JZ (which they are far from), but because of its rarity and because its a way better sign than the 7MGTE which was obviously not designed to be turbo from the beginning. 2JZ swap on an MK3 will be too costly as opposed to t a 1JZ.
The reason the stock turbos shatter when any more than 15 or so PSI is because they are ceramic blades, which do not mix well with heat. The 2nd turbo on the 2JZ's are made out of ceramic as well which is why the 2JZ guys always blow their 2nd turbo.
I pitty you for even saying you want a 1G-GTE....
flubyu2x - my friend Adam has a clean SC300 5SP for sale if you are interested and have the $$$.
If you want to get into even more detail about these motors let me know.... I run www.supramania.com
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The reason the stock turbos shatter when any more than 15 or so PSI is because they are ceramic blades, which do not mix well with heat. The 2nd turbo on the 2JZ's are made out of ceramic as well which is why the 2JZ guys always blow their 2nd turbo.
I pitty you for even saying you want a 1G-GTE....
flubyu2x - my friend Adam has a clean SC300 5SP for sale if you are interested and have the $$$.
If you want to get into even more detail about these motors let me know.... I run www.supramania.com
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well the fact that all of the mkiv supras(2jz) are fast as hell and have SOO much power is that the people tuning them have bottomless pockets. the mkiv supra is hard to obtain in turbo trim under 25k. so the owners obviously have the cash.
if i had that kind of finacing i would show you proof by making my tail lights get smaller. in no way am i trying to start a pissing contest or be arrogent. just because i belive the 1jz is better i dont ask you to agree, i only ask you to just listen. if i could read japaneese i would search out some dyno graphs from FEAST AUTO or some other JDM tuner. it all boils down to how fast you want to go, or how much power you want to make is how much you will pay.
if i had that kind of finacing i would show you proof by making my tail lights get smaller. in no way am i trying to start a pissing contest or be arrogent. just because i belive the 1jz is better i dont ask you to agree, i only ask you to just listen. if i could read japaneese i would search out some dyno graphs from FEAST AUTO or some other JDM tuner. it all boils down to how fast you want to go, or how much power you want to make is how much you will pay.
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Still no proof man, I will give you all the proof in the world to show you that the 1JZ does NOT and will NOT ever compete with the 2JZ in power. 1JZ is still hardly competing with the 7M, which has some been showing way better numbers on dynoes than a 1JZ..... www.7mpower.com Although I still like the 1JZ better than the 7M for MANY reasons which I will babble on about tomorrow when I am not liquored up on Nyquil........ good night!! 
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good night.
oh the M motors are not even in the same school as the jz.
the lack of numbers is the fact of rarity of the 1jz(like you said).
i will find a good graph. PEACE.
P.s. why do you think the 1jz-gte is not a contender against the 2jz? it is the base platform that the 2jz-gte came from.
what makes the 2jz better? lets turn this around for good debait.
i dont want to come on TR and look or sound like an asshole(reading lines of text, such this forum, is hard to tell if someone is being negitive or not)
if i have come off rude or negative i am sorry.
i dont speak down on the 2jz-gte in any way. it is the second generation of the jz series(witch is omnipotent).
really, lets continue this talk without thinking it is a pissing contest or an arguement. lets help make the toyota branch of TR the strongest and fastest of the forum
hope you feel better, i was sick a few weeks ago
oh the M motors are not even in the same school as the jz.
the lack of numbers is the fact of rarity of the 1jz(like you said).
i will find a good graph. PEACE.
P.s. why do you think the 1jz-gte is not a contender against the 2jz? it is the base platform that the 2jz-gte came from.
what makes the 2jz better? lets turn this around for good debait.
i dont want to come on TR and look or sound like an asshole(reading lines of text, such this forum, is hard to tell if someone is being negitive or not)
if i have come off rude or negative i am sorry.
i dont speak down on the 2jz-gte in any way. it is the second generation of the jz series(witch is omnipotent).
really, lets continue this talk without thinking it is a pissing contest or an arguement. lets help make the toyota branch of TR the strongest and fastest of the forum
hope you feel better, i was sick a few weeks ago
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Originally posted by agent89
well the fact that all of the mkiv supras(2jz) are fast as hell and have SOO much power is that the people tuning them have bottomless pockets. the mkiv supra is hard to obtain in turbo trim under 25k. so the owners obviously have the cash.
if i had that kind of finacing i would show you proof by making my tail lights get smaller. in no way am i trying to start a pissing contest or be arrogent. just because i belive the 1jz is better i dont ask you to agree, i only ask you to just listen. if i could read japaneese i would search out some dyno graphs from FEAST AUTO or some other JDM tuner. it all boils down to how fast you want to go, or how much power you want to make is how much you will pay.
well the fact that all of the mkiv supras(2jz) are fast as hell and have SOO much power is that the people tuning them have bottomless pockets. the mkiv supra is hard to obtain in turbo trim under 25k. so the owners obviously have the cash.
if i had that kind of finacing i would show you proof by making my tail lights get smaller. in no way am i trying to start a pissing contest or be arrogent. just because i belive the 1jz is better i dont ask you to agree, i only ask you to just listen. if i could read japaneese i would search out some dyno graphs from FEAST AUTO or some other JDM tuner. it all boils down to how fast you want to go, or how much power you want to make is how much you will pay.
) and they are fast as hell and look awesome, but it doesn't take much to make a fast car even faster...
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I am not turning this into a pissing contest! I am not being negative at all, I just want the people here not to be misguided with information like how it was on the MK3 section of supraforums, whereeverybody know everything because they heard it through someone else and they would reword things to make it seem like they knew what they were talking about 
its all good man, i think we need information threads for those that might need the information without the pissing contest like you said
its all good man, i think we need information threads for those that might need the information without the pissing contest like you said
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i know with those same mods the 1j could get those good numbers, with exception to the fact that the turbos are not good for anything abouve 14pounds in stock trim. that is where the 2jz has the upper hand. as for the links and proof, if someone really needs it go on the internet and find it. i dont have everything bookmarked. look at niels 1jz im not sure if he has a graph on that site but i have seen his dyno run clip.
http://www.southfloridatuners.com/c&.../neil/main.htm
oh, by the way i was saying IF I CAME OFF SOUNDING NEGITIVE, not you.
http://www.southfloridatuners.com/c&.../neil/main.htm
oh, by the way i was saying IF I CAME OFF SOUNDING NEGITIVE, not you.
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