Couldn't get it to idle well though. It hink the limitation has been the factory boost control solinoid. The new Perrin EBCS may change that we'll see. I think with the right tune.....who knows? But hav eyou guys seen this
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...4&page=1&pp=25
this is part 2 there is a vid in there too. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=732204

This is with UTEC and he says he is switching to Hydra in the thread. I believe it is the fastest to date

 

https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/s...d.php?t=212549

 

Well I knew you would know.

 

i believe AEM can do essentially everything the hydra can do, just without all the wiring complications. When i have $1800 i will be going AEM. The only reasoning for this being that i have friends that tune with that software and i've seen it and its quite impressive. I think it is always an advantage to be able to continuously tune your car till it reaches what you believe is perfection. Of course this comes with the liability of destroying your car, but that is the cost you pay.
Personally i believe EcuTek > UTEC when you compare what they were designed for. Although many of people have run higher numbers with UTEC, it will always be a piggyback and therefore limited in what it can do. EcuTek is also limited since it relies too much on the oem ecu, but atleast it retains all of the factory safeguards (factory reliability) and doesn't rely on an assortment of signals trying to fool the stock computer. I believe if you want your subie tuned and you are going to leave it alone, get a mail order reflash. If you have a tuner nearby that can reflash your ecu on a dyno (mastro) do that instead for higher #'s. If you want an ems that you can tune on the fly, with endless options, get an AEM/Hydra/Microtec.

 

Limited how? People keep throwing this kind of talk around with nothing to back it up

It's a simple MAF-based system of timing, boost, and fuel maps (main + supplemental). It can be configured any way the owner/tuner wishes in open-loop, including effectively disabling the Subaru Active Ignition Timing algorithms.

With all due respect, I believe some of you are under some false assumptions and haven't done your homework on the topic. The misinformation is really bothersome.

The absolute largest reason people have opted out of using only EcuTek reflashing for their EM is because it requires visiting an EcuTek-licensed shop for any alteration. This pushes almost everyone away except the guy who wants a simple, safe, conservative flash-and-forget map. It does not in anyway whatsoever prove a single thing about the OEM ECU's capabilities or lack thereof. Combine that with people wanting to be "cool" and say they have a UTEC or people who feel they must have launch control and flat-shifting features or an ECU output to control a solenoid or two, and almost everyone just dives into aftermarket EM. Again, it says absolutely nothing about the capabilities of the OEM ECU other than it doesn't have launch control, flat shifting features, or solenoid outputs.

 

^^^ Right on! But I would like to 2nd the need for a competent tuner. This is the main problem. Both locally and in other markets. Save Atlanta, Oregon, MD and a couple others. KWIM?

 

Define competent? 98% of the people with it are happy with it?

Hmmmmmmm.

This is the person we cater the most to. We never tried to be a "race shop" or "super tuner" we were simply giving people a reliable, safe way to make thier car better with an OEM like option.

Ive said it before, if you think you can tune your own car, then Ecutek is not for you. If you know you cant and dont want to destroy your motor trying then Ecutek is a good option.


Is it the best, no. But it isnt Motec or TEC-II its not meant to run an anti-lag device or launch control. It for making your WRX run smoother and squeeze a little more HP out of your supporting bolt ons.

Not everyone needs/wants a super ECU, nor would most of the people who have one sqeeze every little feature out of it.


My .02

 

Completely understood. I have always known that is the way Mastro approaches it. Safe conservative tunes have been the Mastro motto since beginning EcuTek tuning and that's all I've ever seen you guys market. I personally have no problem with that mentality.

 

I completely agree with you, I'll be the first to say i don't know the full features available to an ecutek customer, but there are some bells and whistles besides launch control/flat shifting that are very desirable that can also aid in tuning that only a seperate ecu can offer. How about the ability to not measure air according to MAF? Fuel compensation for individual cylinders? Datalogging? Boost levels changing according to speed? Multiple inputs and outputs to add and control new boltons: waterspray/injection, nitrous, fans?
As you nicely put, the reason i've decided to go with something else is the ease of alteration. Some tuners say it takes them years to get their project cars running "perfect". There is only a limited amount of dyno time someone can afford. Being able to street tune i think is clearly the sole advantage.
As a side note, i haven't heard of one person who was not happy with his ecutek tune provided by mastro, so the competent tuners comment doesn't apply for the tampa bay area that's for sure.

 

I know it isn't tunable, but for the guy who just wants P&P [Plug & Play] the Cobb Tuning Access Port isn't all that bad. And, it can accommodate larger turbo apps. [VF30, 34].

I might get the CT AP, an up pipe and some silicone hoses. I believe its something like 285 HP with just a TBE and the Access Port.

Oh, and its $595 retail which is pretty reasonable.