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I say ported boxes, each at 40hz and same internal airspace after correct displacements. I want to see 150!
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Because sound dampening is a variable. Obviously someone with $300 worth of dynamat is going to gain a couple decibels over someone with none. The competition isn't to see who can build the better car...it's to pit sub against sub. We could both build a whole car up, but I don't have the time or desire to put that much effort into something just to prove a point (especially if it's not mine).
As for the whole sealed box thing, it would appear as though you are trying to give yourself the edge by going on pure cone area (and the additional air displacement that much cone area can provide over a 10" woofer). The W7 is a much better sealed box woofer than the sub your competition is planning on using.
Each person should be able to use the box of their choice. This will require the person to actually put some of their own personal KNOWLEDGE into the competition rather than tossing some prefab sealed box into similar cars.
A similar bet like this went down with a teammate of mine and a member of another competition club in my area. We were at a cruise night just messing around, and the arrogant kid starts bragging about how much louder his setup is than everyone elses. Kid had 4 12's in a blazer extreme and bet my teammate (who had 2 15's in a ford escape) $100 that his setup was louder. After my teammate threw down his $100, the kid backed out.
Then they metered their cars anyways, and my teammate ended up beating his score by 4 dB.
Last edited by tommyk90; Jan 23, 2007 at 09:01 PM.
That's actually not 100% true. If you talk to a wide variety of competitors, some will tell you that sound deadening actually HURT their score.
As for the whole sealed box thing, it would appear as though you are trying to give yourself the edge by going on pure cone area (and the additional air displacement that much cone area can provide over a 10" woofer). The W7 is a much better sealed box woofer than the sub your competition is planning on using.
Each person should be able to use the box of their choice. This will require the person to actually put some of their own personal KNOWLEDGE into the competition rather than tossing some prefab sealed box into similar cars.
A similar bet like this went down with a teammate of mine and a member of another competition club in my area. We were at a cruise night just messing around, and the arrogant kid starts bragging about how much louder his setup is than everyone elses. Kid had 4 12's in a blazer extreme and bet my teammate (who had 2 15's in a ford escape) $100 that his setup was louder. After my teammate threw down his $100, the kid backed out.
Then they metered their cars anyways, and my teammate ended up beating his score by 4 dB.
As for the whole sealed box thing, it would appear as though you are trying to give yourself the edge by going on pure cone area (and the additional air displacement that much cone area can provide over a 10" woofer). The W7 is a much better sealed box woofer than the sub your competition is planning on using.
Each person should be able to use the box of their choice. This will require the person to actually put some of their own personal KNOWLEDGE into the competition rather than tossing some prefab sealed box into similar cars.
A similar bet like this went down with a teammate of mine and a member of another competition club in my area. We were at a cruise night just messing around, and the arrogant kid starts bragging about how much louder his setup is than everyone elses. Kid had 4 12's in a blazer extreme and bet my teammate (who had 2 15's in a ford escape) $100 that his setup was louder. After my teammate threw down his $100, the kid backed out.
Then they metered their cars anyways, and my teammate ended up beating his score by 4 dB.
Which is the point. It's not a competition of who can build the better box or has more knowledge. It's sub vs. sub. I have no doubt in my mind that someone could take a cheaper 10" sub, build the vehicle up, throw it in some off the wall super box, pump 5k watts to it, and beat a 13w7 with a mediocore install. Burp it, blow it, and win. The only way to accuratley faceoff two subs is to keep as many variables constant as possible.
I could also take my Jeep, throw a 200 shot of nitrous on it, trade my mud tires in for racing slicks, and beat a stock Mustang GT. Regardless of blowing my engine up.
On a side note, who the heck are you? I see this debate has leached it way over to other boards, so I guess we can expect a trolling insurgence of naysayers now.
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Money talks, and since there will be none from any of hte shit talkers claiming a 10" sub can beat a 13w7 this thread is about as useful as scrappin_ricer's opinions.
hey john if your such a confident builder,why are you trying to regulate this,you put your jl vs what he brings if he builds something louder than u u lose,its pretty simple.btw daulton,its just like your opinions no one cares.
I say ported box no bigger than a few cubes, no walls of that garbage.
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Because as I've already stated 8 times previously. We're pitting sub vs. sub. If it were builder vs. builder, there's so many variables that it wouldn't even matter what sub you used. Builder vs. builder would be great, but I definetly do not have the time or money to put into a vehicle that isn't even mine just to prove the already obvious. The only chance a 10 would have is in some special ported enclosure with gobs of power thrown at it...not sure if you guys think this is some secret weapon or something, but what makes you think I couldn't do the same thing with the w7...you really think I'd show up with some prefab sealed box and a 1000w amp if this was the case? Besides the fact, this would be pitting enclosure vs. enclosure. You guys are obviously set on using a ported box because you know it's your only chance in hell.
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Actually I just want to see a 10 break 150
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