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In case you don't know who I am, I wrote a large number of the tools in use by "Chrome" and am probably without too much argument one of the people that knows the most about the software. I wasn't there to see the circumstances, but I can offer some technical commentary. Your claims are totally unreasonable from a purely technical perspective.
I get better gas mileage with O2 disabled than enabled. It is a very common practice in Crome.
PA sensor, ELD and other minor sensors being disabled will not cause a car to not run.
P28 ECUs do not have a knock board - you have to disable the knock function if you want the car to run. This is true of Hondata as well as Crome.
Nothing in the bin I received from Solero would make me suspicious about it firing up and running a vehicle.
I've tuned upwards of 200 OBD1 hondas. I've chipped at least that many more OBD1 honda ECUs. I have yet to fry a single one with a bad chip. I've yet to fry a single one with a bad program in a good chip. I've yet to fry a single one tuning a car, EXCEPT WHEN THE CAR HAD WIRING ISSUES. ECUs rarely die unless provoked. Main relays, poor grounds, bad injector wiring, poor harnesses. That's it. Honestly.
The "IAT transistor" John spoke of as being destroyed in the ECU is a very common problem - I see it all the time. You know what the cause of it is? The IAT sensor has the same plug as the IACV (Idle Air Control Valve) and PCS (Purge Control Solenoid). If you ever switch the IAT with either IACV/PCS, you'll burn up that transistor in a hurry. I've seen probably 40 or 50 ECUs with this damage, and none of them were "fried" - they simply lacked the purge capability for emissions. Not a single one were damaged to the point they would no longer run the car.
John asked me to look at the bin that he put in your GF's car. I certainly wouldn't run the car that way, and I honestly have difficulty believing that what I saw was the best possible tune (even street tune) for that car. BUT it also looked like just another Crome tune - not something that would destroy ECUs and/or cause trouble.
I'm not going to say that John treated you unfairly or anything like that because I wasn't there and I didn't see exactly what happened. What I will tell you is that what you suggest (namely, John frying one of your ECUs in the course of tuning the car) is incredibly unlikely. If called to court as an expert witness, I'd have to testify against the likelyhood of what you described even being possible. I will also tell you that if any of my tuning customers ever threatened me, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves a lot more than John has done. The way you are carrying on isn't going to help you get this situation resolved, and the assertions you make have no technical basis. ECUs don't just fry themselves.
-Dave (admin @ pgmfi.org - the home of Crome)
I get better gas mileage with O2 disabled than enabled. It is a very common practice in Crome.
PA sensor, ELD and other minor sensors being disabled will not cause a car to not run.
P28 ECUs do not have a knock board - you have to disable the knock function if you want the car to run. This is true of Hondata as well as Crome.
Nothing in the bin I received from Solero would make me suspicious about it firing up and running a vehicle.
I've tuned upwards of 200 OBD1 hondas. I've chipped at least that many more OBD1 honda ECUs. I have yet to fry a single one with a bad chip. I've yet to fry a single one with a bad program in a good chip. I've yet to fry a single one tuning a car, EXCEPT WHEN THE CAR HAD WIRING ISSUES. ECUs rarely die unless provoked. Main relays, poor grounds, bad injector wiring, poor harnesses. That's it. Honestly.
The "IAT transistor" John spoke of as being destroyed in the ECU is a very common problem - I see it all the time. You know what the cause of it is? The IAT sensor has the same plug as the IACV (Idle Air Control Valve) and PCS (Purge Control Solenoid). If you ever switch the IAT with either IACV/PCS, you'll burn up that transistor in a hurry. I've seen probably 40 or 50 ECUs with this damage, and none of them were "fried" - they simply lacked the purge capability for emissions. Not a single one were damaged to the point they would no longer run the car.
John asked me to look at the bin that he put in your GF's car. I certainly wouldn't run the car that way, and I honestly have difficulty believing that what I saw was the best possible tune (even street tune) for that car. BUT it also looked like just another Crome tune - not something that would destroy ECUs and/or cause trouble.
I'm not going to say that John treated you unfairly or anything like that because I wasn't there and I didn't see exactly what happened. What I will tell you is that what you suggest (namely, John frying one of your ECUs in the course of tuning the car) is incredibly unlikely. If called to court as an expert witness, I'd have to testify against the likelyhood of what you described even being possible. I will also tell you that if any of my tuning customers ever threatened me, I'd tell them to go fuck themselves a lot more than John has done. The way you are carrying on isn't going to help you get this situation resolved, and the assertions you make have no technical basis. ECUs don't just fry themselves.
-Dave (admin @ pgmfi.org - the home of Crome)
JFWU I agree, however I would probably refund the customer and call it a day.
In life & business you have to take losses to move forward.
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sorry, but this doesnt really change anything. every company has theyre problems... as every company has theyre bad customers and experiences... no company should get a bad reputaion from little issues like this, look at Mc Donalds!, either way... one of you guys needs to take up a loss... and i dont believe John owes anything... I have talked with him numerous amounts of times throughout this crisis... and i am not saying CJ is a bad guy either, but i do believe that John knows his shit and would do everything possible to make his customers happy... unless threatened... I would have done the same thing.
John Solero is a great guy and until he shows me this accused "evil side"... I'll stand by him and his company...
Both of you guys... get it together... and good luck!
John Solero is a great guy and until he shows me this accused "evil side"... I'll stand by him and his company...
Both of you guys... get it together... and good luck!
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like mentioned..everything that was needed to be heard..has been..so now..its time to call out john..what are you willing to do..do you still want to refund money and ecu?..i think thats the only important answer or response left to be posted in this thread..
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Both parties have some blame here, but the thing that sticks out the most to me is cee jay was told he would get his ecu and money back and now hes not. As a professional if you told a customer you would do this then John should just man up and do it already. If John felt he was not to blame then he should have never said he would give the money back.
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not taking any sides, just wanted to say this above statement makes me laugh....
whether your talking...
1. 10 degress ot total timing advance at atmospheric
2. 10 over base idle setting at idle (16+10= 26deg btdc)
3. 10 degress over the preferred total timing advance at atmospheric(roughly 35deg btdc)
none will cause a motor to spin a bearing. oil starvation or bad bearing clearances will cause this. excessive blowby causing contaminated oil can also over time.
just do me a favor and stop saying he caused your motor to spin a bearing
whether your talking...
1. 10 degress ot total timing advance at atmospheric
2. 10 over base idle setting at idle (16+10= 26deg btdc)
3. 10 degress over the preferred total timing advance at atmospheric(roughly 35deg btdc)
none will cause a motor to spin a bearing. oil starvation or bad bearing clearances will cause this. excessive blowby causing contaminated oil can also over time.
just do me a favor and stop saying he caused your motor to spin a bearing
ok so advancing the timing won't put any type of strain on your motor compared to stock timing? did i get that right? if thats the case why doesn't everyone just advance there timing to the max through the dizzy, cam gears or whatever? John claimed he never FUCKED with timing on my motor because it didn't like it, i would get spark plug knock (don't know the real name.) i'm not saying that my motor blew up strictly from his tune but i guarantee you, it DEFINATLY helped the fuck out. why would it take someone 5 times to keep fixing there mistakes on there tune to try and get the motor squared away? and it still didn't run perfect, i have the WRONG injectors that i bought from him. and he jewed me out of $80 on them, he bought them for $200 off of Vance and i paid $280, wouldn't i get some money back there>? in which i have NEVER asked for! and supposedly i gained 30 HP on the dyno, if that was the case, how come my car wasn't ANY QUICKER? can someone please explain that to me????
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i just read this, and i'm done posting.
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but John, you did say you were going to pay ceejay his money and give him the ecu! i was there when you said it and if you would have done that, none of this would be going on right now. so why don't you just pay up and get it over with?
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Ok this is done...
I'm glad everyone got to put their side of the story out. I'm locking this but leaving it stickied until I hear from CJ and John that the situation has been resolved.
Just as a note...TR is NOT the place to come to reconcile a business problem you have. Do your best to handle these things in person man-to-man or whatever. The only time I personally will let something like this fly is if I see where multiple people are being affected and a potential "scammer" is doing business on our boards. (John that is not directed at you personally but in general.) If you are having a problem with someone and you feel like all other avenues are exhausted the next step is to PM an admin or moderator before resorting to posting it on the forums.
Thank you and have a blessed day.
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I'm glad everyone got to put their side of the story out. I'm locking this but leaving it stickied until I hear from CJ and John that the situation has been resolved.
Just as a note...TR is NOT the place to come to reconcile a business problem you have. Do your best to handle these things in person man-to-man or whatever. The only time I personally will let something like this fly is if I see where multiple people are being affected and a potential "scammer" is doing business on our boards. (John that is not directed at you personally but in general.) If you are having a problem with someone and you feel like all other avenues are exhausted the next step is to PM an admin or moderator before resorting to posting it on the forums.
Thank you and have a blessed day.
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