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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 8600RPM
In most cases involving prints smaller than your average movie poster, you cant see the difference in image quality with a Hassy vs. a pro level DSLR.

I have a friend that shoots an older Hassy with a digital back, and his prints arent anything to write home to momma about when we use the same company for print work.
Thanks for your post. But I make what i thought was an obvious joke about the camera, and you take it serious.

Im no rookie sir, so i am well aware of the effect the camera has on the quality of prints.

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In a way it is implying that the photographer did nothing but own an expensive piece of equipment an press a button without realizing there is much more to it than that.
Yourself, and every other photographer has to agree, that the camera is a big contributing factor to taking good pictures. Although, i believe now, more then ever, post processing is bigger.

With lightroom and photoshop, a point and shoot photo can compare to a photo taken by a DSLR. Is he/she a good photographer? In most cases, no. Is he/she a good editor? Most likely.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DD.
Yourself, and every other photographer has to agree, that the camera is a big contributing factor to taking good pictures. Although, i believe now, more then ever, post processing is bigger.

With lightroom and photoshop, a point and shoot photo can compare to a photo taken by a DSLR. Is he/she a good photographer? In most cases, no. Is he/she a good editor? Most likely.
I see a lot of bad photos that the the people feel that PS/LR can auto magically fix, for me a lot of people confuse a great picture with good photography and there is a huge difference.

A fast car does not make you a good driver, that said it does give you an advantage, hell if I could afford to I would buy that Hassy without thinking twice.

I a surprised that no one commented on the lighting diagrams....
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Enz01
The fact that 90% of the photegs think by putting a key and a fill light on their subject thats lighting a subject...

This guy has no hot spots he knows what he's doing & sadly he could have still gave you the same image with a prosumer camera.


Bugs on the bumper, no problem we'll remove them in post. You get my drift?
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DD.
Yourself, and every other photographer has to agree, that the camera is a big contributing factor to taking good pictures. Although, i believe now, more then ever, post processing is bigger.
This is exactly what i was trying to say. It seems there are a few thresholds where the skill of the photographer isn't as important as the quality of the equipment used.

For example, a picture shot with a point and shoot wont compare to a D90, which wont compare to a 5DmkII, which wont compare to a D3x, which wont compare to a Hassleblad, which wont compare to a Mamiya DM56, etc etc.

Add on top of this years of experience getting paid to photoshop stuff...


And the paintbrush or guitar or whatever argument is flawed. First, tell Da Vinci to repaint the Mona Lisa with $.50 home depot chip brushes, or tell Flea to play any of the slap bass parts with a wal-mart brand, single pickup bass.

Equipment does make a big difference in a lot of cases.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by The Chimichunga
This is exactly what i was trying to say. It seems there are a few thresholds where the skill of the photographer isn't as important as the quality of the equipment used.

For example, a picture shot with a point and shoot wont compare to a D90, which wont compare to a 5DmkII, which wont compare to a D3x, which wont compare to a Hassleblad, which wont compare to a Mamiya DM56, etc etc.

Add on top of this years of experience getting paid to photoshop stuff...


And the paintbrush or guitar or whatever argument is flawed. First, tell Da Vinci to repaint the Mona Lisa with $.50 home depot chip brushes, or tell Flea to play any of the slap bass parts with a wal-mart brand, single pickup bass.

Equipment does make a big difference in a lot of cases.
I agree fully. My point was that the camera doesn't make the photographer, it is a tool he/she uses. While a photographer does need the right tools which includes good camera and good glass to get the job done, it is only in the right hands that those tools can be used to produce something great and that is the case whether it is a paintbrush, guitar or camera.
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I wish I was so good that poles sticking out of the roof of my automotive subjects didn't matter.
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^^^^ ????????.......
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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by modz365
^^^^ ????????.......
You're pretty much a noob huh?

He's talking about composition. Having things (light poles, trees, people sometimes) "growing" out from behind cars is not technically correct or appealing
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@michael Yes I am a noob "HERE!!!!!"!!!
Sigh...

I knew what he meant, I wanted him to explain his statement in regards to the photos at the topic of the thread, was he saying that the guy is a bad photographer, are they lousy photos, what poles were he talking about, maybe you would like to answer those question yourself ?????

Anyways, do you seriously think that poles and reflections left in photos were done so by mistake??? Or were they left so on purpose as part of the "COMPOSITION" this guy can more than afford to shoot in studio and eliminate every single reflection.



This car could be shot in a studio as we indeed did on one of the days however the main commercial shots that were done were all taken in a run down industrial estate near to the clients location. We did get some strange looks bringing such a beautiful car into such an urban and rough location, however that was in some respects the whole point as the car was very much in the tradition of the GT40 which was in its time a legend and built very much as a ‘blue collar’ working class hero so the industrial scene suited it well and brought some passion into the work, set the mood if you like... .
In some ways I view each car as a person that has a personality, and the starting point is to understand what the design and overall purpose of the car is trying to put across, the job in hand then is too work out how best to get this message across...
One of the things I taught my graphic students is first learn the rules so you can break the rules! Understand the rules of negative and positive composition, white space....

The reasons I do not get caught in debates about cameras, PS vs LTR, Raw vs JPEG, NOOBS vs VETS, is simple none of these thing mean anything without creativity, sure you can a better picture from a dslr that a point and shoot, but you end up with a bunch of great pictures.

Photography my friend is an ART!!!!
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