I defend myself just like you defend spl and the fact they would not try and save money, or just like the fact that z28 thinks the ls1 is the best v8 ever.

 

I provided multiple points as to why it was my choice, your only reply's have been to try to support someone elses incorrect statement that 1UZ heads flow more, and trying to insinuate that I chose it "to be different"

You are a newbie to the car world, it shows very often in your posts, for you to try stating that SPL did that just shows it even more. I'll be sure to reference your posts when you get a bad batch of weld-el's for your super exotic manifolds, and actually experience something going wrong due to a supplier

 

Yeah I read b18c5-eg posts OK he knows what he is talking about.

No Im not a "newbie" I was just saying Just cause SPL is a good company does not mean they cant try and save money. Your just blind by the fact that you think everyone tells the truth. They did the right thing and gave everyone there money back or gave them new better stuff. But that does not cover the fact it could have been spl's fault. You wont ever have to reference to my post on my weld-el's just make sure you buy from legit metal company's and you wont ever have a problem.

 

You're just making up excuses that have no proof which only make you look like more of an idiot.

You seem to do the same thing, stick to some BS reasoning and defend while every one around proves your ignorance.

 

Flow numbers dont lie, if you are too blind to see them for yourself drifthappy, well i'm glad i'm the one building my car and not you.

Since you wanted to bring up the guys post, first he stated that they flowed x amount, then I provided proof to the contrary, and he had to admit he was wrong, and in the end, yes the 1UZ heads IIRC (dont quote me on it) did flow a little more than early 5.7 LS1 castings, however get stomped by the stock truck heads, on my truck engine, and I didnt even have to get into the L92 heads which are like a 10 lb sledge compared to my ball pein 317 casting LQ9 heads.


But hey all of this i'm sure is over your head, as you have a hard time with the concept of making a cast manifold, so I really dont expect you to be able to understand how head flow numbers result in power, especially in an NA application.

 

So you have the proof of who they ordered there metal from and have the price quotes??? Thats awesome proof me wrong then and show me. Im not throwing out BS im just saying dont always believe everything some one says there not always right or truthful.

Can you quote me and show me where I said they lie??? I never said flow numbers lie.

I know what a cast manifold is. Sorry I had a drunk stupid moment when I wrote that on zilvia. But yeah its way over my head just like iv never used a flow bench. You cool z28

 

While I understand you questioning them stating that they received bad materials, to completely post that they are flat out lying, is a bit silly, and naive, to doubt that they could have received some bad product, from the same supplier they always go through, doesnt make sense, its happened in the past, with plenty of company's, sometimes stuff gets through, its impossible for them to test every single piece of tube that comes through, eventually you will run across this if you stay in the custom parts fabrication arena, when this happens you wont be too happy when people are questioning your integrity based on their own guess.

As far as the flow numbers, thats only a small fraction of my reasoning for my engine choice, i've been doing swaps since 2000, you definetly wont find me jumping into doing a swap because its "different" or "cool" or any other trivial reasoning, the fact is my swap will turn out better than almost every SR swap around here even though my engine never even came in the chassis its now in, my harness wont have any spliced connections, the alternator puts out more than enough power for the car, and extra add ons, the transmission is more than capable of handling the power I intend to put down without trouble, clutch is bigger for increased capability there, I wont be worrying about my exhaust burning up my brake fluid, there are just a few of the main reasons I chose the engine i'm using, but that definetly doesnt cover all of them. Oh and the ability to get parts to replace things locally without any silly begging for someone to have a used one "asap" or trying to guess which parts from what other USDM cars fit.

Oh to add to that part, you used the evo turbo on your car because you had it laying around, making it a "price" issue, i'll have about the same in my drivetrain as a properly done SR swap, certainly between that and the other long list of benefits you can see the choice isnt exactly a hard one to make.

As far as quoting you on flow numbers lying, you are still trying to act like the 1UZ is a better engine, based on B18hondaboys incorrect statement about the heads on them flowing something amazing, when in fact they arent even on par with my "truck" heads.

 

Your totally right they could have received bad materials.

The way I was trying to say is....

What if SPL got in contact with another metal supermarket and they said you buy from us we will sell you .50 cents cheaper per foot compared to the ppl they are getting it from. So SPL is like ok we will buy the cheaper stuff but in re-turn they got less quality matel. But there idea back fired on them.

And I never said "Flat out they are lying"

Ok your swap might be better then most sr swap's. But dont forget alot of ppl who do sr's half-ass them and dont care. Iv seen ls1 240 and ls1 rx7 swap done that look like ASS too. Just cause you do it right does not mean they are all done right.

Your choice is your own ppl just dont do it cause its gay. Its funny you talk about you have more money in your drivetrain then a built sr. My version of a properly built sr would prob be 15k just in the engine. So no your drivetrain will not be more money. Why would you even upgrade it if the clutch and tranny are more then perfect for what you want be smart and put the money into some other part of the car. Dont waste your money to replace something thats perfect.

 

No I didnt say I have more money in my drivetrain than a built SR, I said i've got about the same into it as a properly done sr swap, as in just a basic motorset, fmic, clutch, radiator.. To compare, about $3k, engine/trans/clutch/cam upgrade, maybe 3500... for a 420 or so rwhp setup, with a NEW LS7 corvette clutch, a 6 spd manual with two overdrive gears and the ability to handle a hell of a lot of power, an alternator that puts out 155 amps, etc...

Uhh are you really trying to say the SR clutch and transmission are perfect ? Sorry but again at the levels of power i'll be putting down the stock SR transmission will be about as useful as a T5, and the itty bitty teeenie clutch is far from perfect also.

 

As far as turning out better, yes I know i've seen plenty of peoples swaps, they are far from ideal, but i'm not guessing on this, my SR swap ran great, an 8.33 1/8th mile on just a fmic, exhaust and clutch isnt exactly a slouch. However no matter how much time you put into an SR swap it will still have a spliced harness, from a RHD car reworked to fit the LHD layout, and i'll have a harness with no splices, but connectors, etc other than where multiple grounds or power wires come together, that alone makes it a better install, let alone the other benefits.