S14 front wheel bearing replacement
This made me laugh.
last time i checked....newest 240sx is how many years old? oh yeah....fuckin 11....and counting....don't talk shit about pulling parts off cars the same make and year just because of its source - and i call bs if you claim you've never gotten a second hand part.
gtfo with your "look at my oem parts while i pee on your intuitive alternatives" attitude. do you ever post anything helpful? ever?
whoa....watch out mr elitist...
last time i checked....newest 240sx is how many years old? oh yeah....fuckin 11....and counting....don't talk shit about pulling parts off cars the same make and year just because of its source - and i call bs if you claim you've never gotten a second hand part.
gtfo with your "look at my oem parts while i pee on your intuitive alternatives" attitude. do you ever post anything helpful? ever?
last time i checked....newest 240sx is how many years old? oh yeah....fuckin 11....and counting....don't talk shit about pulling parts off cars the same make and year just because of its source - and i call bs if you claim you've never gotten a second hand part.
gtfo with your "look at my oem parts while i pee on your intuitive alternatives" attitude. do you ever post anything helpful? ever?
clutch, brakes, suspension, you know. stuff like that.
what does it matter how old a car make is, when a part for the car is purchased new? does that make it a used part because the car its made for is 11 years old?
and, yes. i do help people.
just nobody thats posted in this thread.
Oh man. Where to start. First off, someone buy sydewayz a dictionary, because there's nothing "intuitive" about machining and pressing mixed up parts. Props for trying to string together three 8+ letter words on an automotive forum, though.
Ok. So S13 bearings and S14 4-lug bearings are not the same. Period. All S14's use different spindle tapers (and thus inner bearing races) than S13's. AND, S14 4-lug hubs are not the same as 4-lug S13 hubs, easily represented by the fact that they take different studs. So, yes, It would be REALLY easy to go get S14 4-lug spindles for free and go get new OEM hub/bearing assemblies for $230 and basically have new everything.
I think Z28ricer's solution for taking free J30 throwaway hubs and pressing in S13 bearings is at least another alternative. Chasing a machinist and shop guy (because I don't have my own press) isn't something I'm going to waste my time on to save a few bucks, but it wouldn't be a stretch for someone who works at a shop to do this.
Some people on here need to stop playing internet engineer. "thin hubs"? WTF does that have to do with anything? When has anyone ever broken a hub before? Time attack cars on slicks crashing berms? No. Drift cars crashing into walls? No. Lets just say I'm not losing sleep at night thinking about cast steel cracking. ...especially when it's being loaded by a big chunk of cast aluminum.
And who in here is talking about replacing worn out bearings? These bearings basically never wear out. My car is on the originals and has 165k on it. I know there are even higher mileage examples as well. The only time I've killed bearings is on my S13 when I ran them without the seals/caps. Enough water finally accumulated in there and rusted the rollers. But only after 2 years of driving it like that! Even then it was just noisy and didn't have any play.
By the way, lets go ahead and address another internet myth while we're talking about hubs.... The front bearings are not sealed. The outer caps actually keep stuff out. And they're not sealed on the backside either. That's why its important to keep the "ring" part of the brake shield when you cut it. It interfaces closely with the hub to keep stuff out.
Finally, never trust online parts catalogs unless you're reading scans of the Nissan microfiche directly.
Ok. So S13 bearings and S14 4-lug bearings are not the same. Period. All S14's use different spindle tapers (and thus inner bearing races) than S13's. AND, S14 4-lug hubs are not the same as 4-lug S13 hubs, easily represented by the fact that they take different studs. So, yes, It would be REALLY easy to go get S14 4-lug spindles for free and go get new OEM hub/bearing assemblies for $230 and basically have new everything.
I think Z28ricer's solution for taking free J30 throwaway hubs and pressing in S13 bearings is at least another alternative. Chasing a machinist and shop guy (because I don't have my own press) isn't something I'm going to waste my time on to save a few bucks, but it wouldn't be a stretch for someone who works at a shop to do this.
Some people on here need to stop playing internet engineer. "thin hubs"? WTF does that have to do with anything? When has anyone ever broken a hub before? Time attack cars on slicks crashing berms? No. Drift cars crashing into walls? No. Lets just say I'm not losing sleep at night thinking about cast steel cracking. ...especially when it's being loaded by a big chunk of cast aluminum.
And who in here is talking about replacing worn out bearings? These bearings basically never wear out. My car is on the originals and has 165k on it. I know there are even higher mileage examples as well. The only time I've killed bearings is on my S13 when I ran them without the seals/caps. Enough water finally accumulated in there and rusted the rollers. But only after 2 years of driving it like that! Even then it was just noisy and didn't have any play.
By the way, lets go ahead and address another internet myth while we're talking about hubs.... The front bearings are not sealed. The outer caps actually keep stuff out. And they're not sealed on the backside either. That's why its important to keep the "ring" part of the brake shield when you cut it. It interfaces closely with the hub to keep stuff out.
Finally, never trust online parts catalogs unless you're reading scans of the Nissan microfiche directly.
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I'll admit my word choice was incorrect - I should have said something along the lines of resourceful.
No to be a dick or anything Epstein, but I was unaware that it was against automotive forum policies to type above a 5th grade education level... I'll make sure to keep my words as monosyllabic as possible in my future posts.
No to be a dick or anything Epstein, but I was unaware that it was against automotive forum policies to type above a 5th grade education level... I'll make sure to keep my words as monosyllabic as possible in my future posts.
Oh man. Where to start. First off, someone buy sydewayz a dictionary, because there's nothing "intuitive" about machining and pressing mixed up parts. Props for trying to string together three 8+ letter words on an automotive forum, though.
Ok. So S13 bearings and S14 4-lug bearings are not the same. Period. All S14's use different spindle tapers (and thus inner bearing races) than S13's. AND, S14 4-lug hubs are not the same as 4-lug S13 hubs, easily represented by the fact that they take different studs. So, yes, It would be REALLY easy to go get S14 4-lug spindles for free and go get new OEM hub/bearing assemblies for $230 and basically have new everything.
I think Z28ricer's solution for taking free J30 throwaway hubs and pressing in S13 bearings is at least another alternative. Chasing a machinist and shop guy (because I don't have my own press) isn't something I'm going to waste my time on to save a few bucks, but it wouldn't be a stretch for someone who works at a shop to do this.
Ok. So S13 bearings and S14 4-lug bearings are not the same. Period. All S14's use different spindle tapers (and thus inner bearing races) than S13's. AND, S14 4-lug hubs are not the same as 4-lug S13 hubs, easily represented by the fact that they take different studs. So, yes, It would be REALLY easy to go get S14 4-lug spindles for free and go get new OEM hub/bearing assemblies for $230 and basically have new everything.
I think Z28ricer's solution for taking free J30 throwaway hubs and pressing in S13 bearings is at least another alternative. Chasing a machinist and shop guy (because I don't have my own press) isn't something I'm going to waste my time on to save a few bucks, but it wouldn't be a stretch for someone who works at a shop to do this.
I havent seen the S14 front hubs for much cheaper than FRsports $260 + shipping. Nor have I seen S14 front spindles given away, generally the best I could actually find them for somewhat readily available was $50/side, so $360, as opposed to being able to go any day of the week to get a set of J30 hubs for nearly nothing, pickup a set of new bearings for $100, and then pay the whopping $40 total I did for having the old bearings pressed out, the hubs machined for the lock ring groove to be in the correct spot, and then the new bearings pressed back in.
$140 > $360 not to mention eliminating the trouble of installing the spindles and drilling struts/shocks, its a bolt on solution, lower priced, and the quality is no less, other than tims crack smoking ONLY MY WAY IS BETTER CAUSE I SAYSIS SO ! attitude.
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R.I.P. Tim 
SR, RB, and LS1 into S13/14 harnesses converted.
SR 13/13- $120, 13/14 or 14/13 $180
RB $200
LS1 $250
full on track cars can take a lot more liberties with shit than a street car. bell bottom kits and crazy wheel fitment look cool sliding on a track, but when i want to drive to taco bus, im going to ruin all of that shit. so it just doesnt work for me. function over fashion.
Originally Posted by osama tim laden
also, im about to blow my moderator status by deleteing all of davids posts
SR, RB, and LS1 into S13/14 harnesses converted.
SR 13/13- $120, 13/14 or 14/13 $180
RB $200
LS1 $250
My way usually is always correct though.
And unlike yourself, when I do something to save money I say that's why. Not make up some bullshit about hubs flexing.
Also. I gurantee you I can get the hubs cheaper than 250. Brand new, oem nissan.
And unlike yourself, when I do something to save money I say that's why. Not make up some bullshit about hubs flexing.
Also. I gurantee you I can get the hubs cheaper than 250. Brand new, oem nissan.
Good, and I can get timken bearings, new and just replace them for $100
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R.I.P. Tim 
SR, RB, and LS1 into S13/14 harnesses converted.
SR 13/13- $120, 13/14 or 14/13 $180
RB $200
LS1 $250
full on track cars can take a lot more liberties with shit than a street car. bell bottom kits and crazy wheel fitment look cool sliding on a track, but when i want to drive to taco bus, im going to ruin all of that shit. so it just doesnt work for me. function over fashion.
Originally Posted by osama tim laden
also, im about to blow my moderator status by deleteing all of davids posts
SR, RB, and LS1 into S13/14 harnesses converted.
SR 13/13- $120, 13/14 or 14/13 $180
RB $200
LS1 $250




