if i go turbo i'll probably go rb25 and leave it fairly stock. just a clutch and aftermarket intake mani before i throw it in. stock intakes are ugly

 

i ran a 100 for six bottles and then swaped a new motor the old one was still running good with 120k on it

 

my buddy bought a car that had a kit on it 75 shot wet. just a fogger just before the t/b, wot switch on an auto car . . blew the trans before the motor went. the trans was rebuilt too. heavy ass converter, but we put the motor in another car with no bottle just a header and intake and it screams man.. some ka's will take alot of abuse, some arent so lucky.

do a compresion and leak down test and see what the results are. then make your decision. but no more then 75 on a stock motor and definelty dont use a dry kit. go with the wet. less of a chance of seriously bad detonation and u just need a 255 to upgrade the fuel system

 

I don't see any problem running a 100 shot on a stock motor if properly setup. You probably want to make sure that your fuel pump will support the extra 100hp or so. It's also adviseable to retard the timing appropriately if you're going to be spraying that day/night. I don't know the number offhand but there's a recommended number of degrees per shot size that you should retard. Go look that up. Subtract that from your base timing by rotating the distributer.

 

Why the hate on the dry kits? I see this all the time on import boards, and I also used to see wet vs. dry as good vs. bad, but a lot of domestic guys seem to run them with good results and now I see it as a matter of pros and cons for each. Wet kit fuel connections can leak, the fuel solenoid can fail screwing up your AFR- when a dry kit fails, you're running slightly less timing and a richer AFR in your tune, when a wet kit fails you could be running pure fuel and bog out (I saw a pinks episode where a guy lost the semifinals this way), or you could be running pure nitrous and blow up. Wet kits have a much higher chance of nitrous backfires, wet kits require playing with jets and balancing fuel and nitrous through crude means outside your fancy EFI system.

Just a list of potential cons to a wet kit- like I said, there are pros and cons to both, but I don't think you can make a blanket statement "dry is bad wet is good".

 

im sorry i wasnt trying to put it in a dry bad wet good way (should of used the "recomed" word) im not a nitrous expert .. the drag guys at my shops swear by wet kits (there running 350 2stage kits, understandably wet) and they told me the detonation thing. the one guy had a dry kit and i was interested in it but he told me that with a fuel injection system that a wet kit would be better because you just need an upgraded pump maybe a fpr and you wouldent really have to tune it just retard the timing if your gona spray. . . with a v8 and a carb a small dry kit would work because you run your carb richer and you have the right mix but with any n2o system it needs to be done right because when any part fails while spraying things can go bad quickly

 

two of the big bottles should be fine.

 

That was pretty funny.

 

A lot of your information only applies if you are running an aftermarket ecu for the fuel side of things. The majority of dry systems have nothing to do with your "fancy" efi system, and also are "crude"

Typical dry kit uses nitrous pressure bled to the FPR to increase the fuel pressure, you can end up not having the fuel enrichment just the same, you have to tune it just the same, except you are using jets bleeding off some of the nitrous pressure to adjust your fuel.

A nitrous backfire is typically something you've got because you screwed up, as with anything else, do it right, you wont have a fuckup.

Keys to making it work:

1. Have a fuel pressure safety switch
2. Have enough fuel pump for the job
3. Use an RPM switch
4. Dont get too brave
5. Use quality filters
6. Dont use cheap shit

One of the benefits to a wet setup is that you can run a small dedicated fuel cell and pump for your nitrous system, this allows you to not only use race gas for your nitrous setup, but you can also tune the kit using your fuel pressure, instead of strictly by the jets.

 

Nitrous on a 240...Why??