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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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and also, i didnt read it because i honestly dont care. nothat i dont have the attention span.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by omgwtfbbq!
Learn what? I study advanced physics, I know every reason wide tires are better. The only people who need to know this, already know it.
You did not know everything in the article, I dont even think you read all of it. Id be surprised if you knew 20% of what was in it. Before you come back and say you know everything, know that I know that you don't know, and will probably follow up with another rude comment and cite one of your threads:

I was wondering what compression ratio would work best with a high boost application. Specifically 20psi on an H22. What kinda of pistons do you guys recommend? Would this be a safe build without reinforcing the lower end? Also, what about turbo and vtec? Friends? Enemies?
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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Yeah, a thread posted well over a year ago. Nice find.

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Stay on google posting other peoples work, I'm sure you'll go far.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by paul kersey
sure, a 275 on the same car will most likely have more lateral grip than a 225.
Oh, so "steam roller" tires are functional? Fuck me for wanting a more functional car. I will agree with you, that the law of diminishing returns is going to be a factor unless I can put more load (weight) on the tires.

if youre so smart, and no so much about everything, why arent you out doing something besides posting copied articles on the internet?
I am doing something, I am building a car. I could have wasted a bunch of time, typing out a long article about why wide tires are better, but I decided to not re-invent the wheel and post an existing article.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Yeah that's great. I can cut and paste Mark Ortiz's work, too. Wasn't your original argument about running wide tires on a STREET car though? This is a track-related article. Here's why it'll suck on the street.

Why wide tires are going to suck is that once you dial in your 2.5-3* of camber for that lateral grip, 1/3 of your tire width is flying in the air. That's going to really fuck up your straight line traction.

Plus, as mentioned in the first sentence, as your car is defined as a street car it'll undoubtedly get stuck in the rain. I had to drive in the rain 3 times last week in a car I swore would never see water. And we all know what happens when you drive around in a car with a ski on each corner. You find yourself backed half way up a tree like Nick Hogan. Aquaplanning is going to happen, and rain driving is unavoidable in FL.

So yeah, wider tires are better for lateral grip (*** excluding a few times). Now all you need to is live at one end of Carillon and work at the other. I just hope that you're looking A-048's or better.... since we're looking for maximum grip and all.

Or we can go with the challenge-based response.... Take an Ariel Atom with 205/225 Advan's. Now put some 275's on it. Can you tell me beyond a reasonable doubt that it'll be faster? I mean, come on! 225/245 would be reasonable, and I'm not hearing about the masses of people doing this. Makes you think....
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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zomg another epic failure thread in nissan tech. This is getting sad.


And as usual, Tim you f-ing deliver
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vertigo
So you are saying that your 225's will pull more g's than a 275?
What you're neglecting here is compound. Man, you gotta be more specific here! I'll take my car on 225 Hoosier autocross tires versus anything you have on 275 Sumitomo HTR-Z's.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by omgwtfbbq!
Yeah, a thread posted well over a year ago. Nice find.

I will stay in school.
So you reached Einstein status in 365 days?

Stay on google posting other peoples work, I'm sure you'll go far.
One day, you may reach the real world, where no one of any significant intelligence bothers to reinvent the wheel. I use code written by others all day every day, 365. Work smarter not harder.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Epstein
What you're neglecting here is compound. Man, you gotta be more specific here! I'll take my car on 225 Hoosier autocross tires versus anything you have on 275 Sumitomo HTR-Z's.
Obviously we are comparing tires of the same make/model
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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pretty much to back what epstein said. and to reiterate my point.

its more important to have a properly sized tire, then just cramming the biggest widest piece of shit you can on there. proper car setup and dialing in goes alot further than just wide tires.

so your building a car? rad.
my car is built. and handles exellently.
post again when yours does the same.
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