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You infer whatever you want, but I didn't say that head flow doesn't matter to HP. I said that HP is a better indicator of flow in general. Your static flow crutch argument is tired and you don't know enough about dynamics to back it up.
And since when is "swapping it into stuff" some kind of requirement for a good motor?
Sweet, now we're talking tech!
BTW, VK56DE now makes 420 HP in the new M56. awww....
And since when is "swapping it into stuff" some kind of requirement for a good motor?
Sweet, now we're talking tech!
BTW, VK56DE now makes 420 HP in the new M56. awww....
BTW
LS9 makes 638 HP
LSA makes 556 HP
LS3 makes 430 HP
Hey look all pushrod motors, in smaller overall packages, that make more power, and probably get better fuel mileage.
Wow sweet, with direct injection, variable valve timing, variable lift, all that work, to make less power, in a larger overall package.
But hey I guess you can claim it does it with less displacement
Cliffnotes:
Similar year production engines, the pushrod motor making more power with less displacement.
Similar racing class engines, same power same displacement
OHC crew comes up with engine from 2011 to finally attempt to 1-up the 2003 pushrod motor
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Where are you getting your unrestricted out put numbers from? As far as I'm aware they're aren't any listed anywhere. And if they are running the same size restrictors then they both make about the same power unrestricted.
And its not the same displacement like I said FIA GT1 its 5.6-vk v.s 7.0-ls, both are restricted. Meaning both make more than that unrestricted and you have no clue which makes more so you cant argue that. All we know is they both make over 600hp unrestricted. But the GTR is faster and has a much smaller motor. The GTR actually has the smallest motor of the field by quite a bit. Everything else in that class is over 6.0L.
And its not the same displacement like I said FIA GT1 its 5.6-vk v.s 7.0-ls, both are restricted. Meaning both make more than that unrestricted and you have no clue which makes more so you cant argue that. All we know is they both make over 600hp unrestricted. But the GTR is faster and has a much smaller motor. The GTR actually has the smallest motor of the field by quite a bit. Everything else in that class is over 6.0L.
Because you want to keep making excuses and go right around the same displacement comparison
GT1 GTR 5.6L 490 HP
GT2 Corvette 5.5L 485 HP
Keep running back to the politics of class racing all you want, every other year some team is crying about another teams cars, oh you missed the porsche guys crying about the CTS-V's stomping all over everyone ?
Goodness throw enough money at a shitbox, it'll be fast.
Apples to apples you do a poor job of actually arguing this VK vs LS1 thing.
More power, smaller package, better fuel mileage, but hey you can claim in one small case a displacement disadvantage
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Yeah because engine designation is what determines power output and you know it. Your just ignoring that. You know for a fact that the VK your using as an example is not tuned or built to make 400hp like the LS6 was. If nissan wanted it to make 400hp they could easily do so. So your argument is completely irrelevent based on that. The engine was not designed to make gobs of power, it was designed to be efficent at pulling stuff. GM wanted more out of the LS1 so guess what they had to do, Change a hole bunch of shit to make more power and not surpsingly it did. And as chris stated Nissan decided to upgrade the VK motor finally and it makes 420hp, and its still not even in a sports car designed to go fast like the LS6 was. womp womp womp.
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Yeah because engine designation is what determines power output and you know it. Your just ignoring that. You know for a fact that the VK your using as an example is not tuned or built to make 400hp like the LS6 was. If nissan wanted it to make 400hp they could easily do so. So your argument is completely irrelevent based on that. The engine was not designed to make gobs of power, it was designed to be efficent at pulling stuff. GM wanted more out of the LS1 so guess what they had to do, Change a hole bunch of shit to make more power and not surpsingly it did. And as chris stated Nissan decided to upgrade the VK motor finally and it makes 420hp, and its still not even in a sports car designed to go fast like the LS6 was. womp womp womp.
Wait you really think the LS6 is some sort of high strung, fully tuned beast ?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahah
Oh man, way too funny.
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Where are you getting the 490hp? Are you retarded today? It makes 600hp just like all GT1 cars. Jesus christ I've said that multiple times it makes the same power as the LS7 powered GT1 vette because its in GT1. If it only made 490hp it wouldnt even be allowed in the GT1 class.
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Where are you getting the 490hp? Are you retarded today? It makes 600hp just like all GT1 cars. Jesus christ I've said that multiple times it makes the same power as the LS7 powered GT1 vette because its in GT1. If it only made 490hp it wouldnt even be allowed in the GT1 class.
Report: FIA GT1 Nissan GT-R Race Car Debuts With 600-hp V8 | AutoGuide.com News
Report: FIA GT1 Nissan GT-R Race Car Debuts With 600-hp V8 | AutoGuide.com News
Indeed, too many different numbers.
Sweet in the GT1 cars the GTR makes the same power, with the same size restrictor, darn, and a lot less torque.
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Who said high strung? I said it was built with the intentions of more power than the LS1 in which case they changed the heads, intake manifold, exhaust, cam and other things. Look what nissan did, they changed some stuff around and tuned it differently so VK now makes 420, and I doubt thats highly strung either. But its as simple as that the power output from factory is more dependant on what type of car its going in than anything else and you know that. Your just ignoring it.
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