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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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A properly set up alcohol injection kit works great. First off it should be set up so it only comes on at WOT and at say 20+lbs of boost. Propane works also but i would rather have a 1 gal cell with alcohol in it under the hood then a propane tank in the car. Just remember no matter how well you tune the car on 93 octain, alcohol will only make it faster. And if set up right you would never use it unless you were in high boost at WOT.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by TRIPLE G
A properly set up alcohol injection kit works great. First off it should be set up so it only comes on at WOT and at say 20+lbs of boost. Propane works also but i would rather have a 1 gal cell with alcohol in it under the hood then a propane tank in the car. Just remember no matter how well you tune the car on 93 octain, alcohol will only make it faster. And if set up right you would never use it unless you were in high boost at WOT.
+ MOTHER FUCKING 1.

How many more people will it take to say this to prove that it actually used as a helpfull tuning tool and a replacement for race gas for it to get through your thick skull flubyux2?
Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Wow, ok. LoL bottom line, i can ahve a switch to control whether alky goes in or not. I carry a gallon of alky and water in my car... I check it if i noticed i have been boosting a lot.

Yes i do have a 14b on the car, but i know of many who have ran alki with 14b.

FLubyux, your only concern is that i dont remember and i have boost set to whatever 23 lbs and i run out of alki, i start knocking and pull timing and whatever, fuck some shit up. What if i were to install a hob switch like 4drwhore said and only turn it on when i am racing, and all other times keep boost around 15, for daily driving purposes, thus eliminating chance of running out of alcohol and knocking like crazy?

What do you think? Still think its a bad idea? I mean if you're only concern is that if i run outta alki and some ricer wants to race me i cant... then im not worried.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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Putting alki on a 14b car is like adding a 4hp shot of nitrous. It wont due dick and is totally pointless. Unless you are running a MIN. of a 50trim turbo or bigger, alki should not be in your budget.

You can still be in boost and not use alki, just get a hob switch that activates at 20+ psi and when you are driving around daily just turn your ebc down to 18lbs. Problem solved. But you don't need to be worrying about it with a small turbo like that. If you get knock with a 14b you shouldn't be owning a dsm
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use a WOT switch along with a pressure switch that can be set at what ever boost level you wont. You really dont have much of a need for this with a 14b. You set it up like a N20 kit. You want a switch that will activate the whole system then you want a WOT switch so it will only come on at WOT. Next you use a pressure switch. With nitrous you want it to only come on at a certain rpm. With this you want it to only come on when you reach a certain boost level.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by 4drwhore
Putting alki on a 14b car is like adding a 4hp shot of nitrous. It wont due dick and is totally pointless. Unless you are running a MIN. of a 50trim turbo or bigger, alki should not be in your budget.

You can still be in boost and not use alki, just get a hob switch that activates at 20+ psi and when you are driving around daily just turn your ebc down to 18lbs. Problem solved. But you don't need to be worrying about it with a small turbo like that. If you get knock with a 14b you shouldn't be owning a dsm


You beat me to the not needed on a 14b car.
Granted it would allow you to run more timing.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I use it on my 50trim. It comes on at 18psi. Without it, on pump gas, I could only get 21 psi, now with it I get 26psi on pump. It doesn't use much.
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:07 AM
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Aaron, just have brian install a boost pressure switch so it will only come on once youve reached a certain boost level. You could also have an on/off switch too which isnt that hard. I was actually planning on running this with brians old setup. Goodluck to you if you end up getting it.
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What happened to fluxby2?
Old Nov 4, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Im right here with you all the way, e-thug. btw, you can Edit your posts and add more rebuttal. you dont need to post Every time you need to say something... unless youre trying to whore up the thread.

I personally dont like to put myself in a situation where things can go wrong and create a dependancy on a finite source. its like oil injection on a jet ski or dirt bike or snow mobile; ive know several people who ran out of oil but still had a full tank of gas and baked their motors because they ran out of the "additive". I dont like the idea of relying on something that could run out. running out of alky is like running out of nitrous.. youre car doesnt need it to run, unlike fuel.

and you can throw all the facts and numbers and "so-and-so's car does this" hear-say statements all you want. i never SAID it didnt work. you are misinformed. youre getting your panties in a bunch and getting an attitude as if im saying alky injection is a snake oil that doesnt work. i KNOW it works, i never said it doesnt. I said its not a good idea to create a dependancy on something you dont Need. like Cigarette smokers, heroin addicts, and other various junkies; they dont NEED the drug, but through use, they created a dependancy.

a alky injection system wont work without a hobb's switch, so i dont know why you bring it up as if it were a failsafe. its not. the alky would never get injected unless it was told to, and only squirting when you voluntarily say so doesnt make it a good idea. the hobb's switch creates consistancy, but not safeness. If you could have an idiot light for when the tank is low or empty, that would ease any worries or objections i have against alky injection.

btw, i have no idea why you are being such a dick about this. dont you know how to have an intelligent debate without losing your temper and saying irrational and immature things?

Lets me reiterate this for you, since you apparantly have a thick skull as well and refuse to see my point;

Bad idea to create a dependancy on something unnecessary which could cause damage to the engine with a setup using alky as a constant rather than a variable.
Alky injection is proven and allows many cars to go fast
Alky injection is NOT the best thing since sliced bread, there are other chemicals that can be injected which would acheive the goal and surpass it.

without proper failsafes, its just damage waiting to happen.

all im saying is be safe about it, know what the potential consequences are and be aware that there are other alternatives which work better.

no where did i say alky injection is worthless. so chill the fuck out 4drhoe and stop being a baby. Learn to have an intelligent debate without flipping out and resorting to emoticons for your lack of vocabulary.

EDIT: (practicing what i preach) alot of guys use their windsheild washer resivoirs as tanks and just tee into the lines to draw fluid from there. very low key and sleeper. no one would know you have it. but you might have to refill more often.
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