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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by 4drwhore
Depends on the application. The fastest drag dsm/4g63's are rwd...

Less to break, You can make a built tranny for just the RWD and AWD complicates with too many components to break.


but as per most personal badass tens can use a built awd tranny with no probs.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by FiReBReTHa
Less to break, You can make a built tranny for just the RWD and AWD complicates with too many components to break.


but as per most personal badass tens can use a built awd tranny with no probs.
This is true but also just the nature of an awd trans. makes it pretty much impossible to run less then 8s in, I would assume. Especially since the fastest rwd 4g63/4 is in the 7s without nitrous and the fastest awd 4g63/4 is only mid 8's and that's with spray. Just food for thought.
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Old Oct 2, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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Ive done it 3 yrs ago. Car handles 10 times better rwd not sure why and drifts like a god. Six months time three rear ends one drive shaft and alot of rear tires. If I had the time I would have fixed the wheel hop issues but making a torque arm to stop the rear end from flexing. If I could buy a torque arm I would do it agin in a heart beat! I have video some where around hereof me at the track doing a good long burn out and drifting around and some good doughnuts. good times.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Hey hold on guys......i have a rwd DSM.......and hard launches are very common.... ......if u want pics give me a holla.....
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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He said without having to turn the motor elongated. I'd like pics of your mighty max anyway.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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you got aim or msn?
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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Yea, whats' your sn.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by NCBoost
Ive done it 3 yrs ago. Car handles 10 times better rwd not sure why and drifts like a god. Six months time three rear ends one drive shaft and alot of rear tires. If I had the time I would have fixed the wheel hop issues but making a torque arm to stop the rear end from flexing. If I could buy a torque arm I would do it agin in a heart beat! I have video some where around hereof me at the track doing a good long burn out and drifting around and some good doughnuts. good times.
what did you do? and why did it keep breaking? wheel hop?

details please!

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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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I think this is a correct definition or example of wheel hop :

The suspension and engine are connected to the rest of the car with flexible, rubber bushings and mounts. This flex kills vibrations, but it also produces a secondary, unwanted, oscillatory mechanical system. Normally, this system isn't acted on in such a way that it oscillates. When launching, the weight transfers to the rear of the car, reducing traction in the front. As the front tires break traction, the forces on the suspension and engine also change, setting them into motion. When the tires grab again, the forces change back the other way, now applied to a system already in motion. Now we have an oscillating force applied to an oscillating system, much like a hitting a paddleball. If you apply force to the paddle to match the natural frequency of the ball attached to the elastic string, you can keep that system going all day. With wheel hop, the motion of the system feeds back to the wheels, causing the oscillating force to sync up with it. This will also go on all day (until you reduce throttle or the transmission falls apart
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan Y.
I'd look into a 35/65 torque-split center diff. That will give the car a much more oversteer-biased/rwd handling characteristic while still retaining benefits of AWD. I remember reading that somebody had one installed in their car on the DSM-AutoX Yahoo group, you could search there to check it out.

Oh i forgot to say that this is what i would like to do as well!

as my car is.... the tread on my tires are starting to pull up sideways, Cough........
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