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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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i've seen a blue FD with some silver stripes, and word on the street is there is an FC making in the 600's, locally, with a 3 rotor?
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by PoppaSmurf
i've seen a blue FD with some silver stripes, and word on the street is there is an FC making in the 600's, locally, with a 3 rotor?
There is a black FD getting a 20B swap done at Mazsport now. The subframe is complete and the engine is sitting in the car, so it shouldn't be much longer.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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USFDR has a S5 Coupe with a 20B with a single in it . JIC Suspension etc . I saw it when he was still putting it togther .

He had a vert with a T2 swap and a haltech too . I've also heard of a 20B FC IN Clearwater/St.Pete area but that is just a rumor though .
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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i just now took a look at this thread and figured id post on this topic since i have experience in the 20b fc area.

as everyone has pointed out the 20b is going to be a bit pricey to get but still not out of this world. my friends got theirs from our buddy who is still stationed in japan. you can buy them blown for decently cheap. the custom work isn't all that out of this world. but i would reccomend doing nothing less than a standalone ems for management. if your going to run a single turbo setup(which is your best bet) your going to have to have a custom manifold built which is going to be a pretty decent amount of change. bigger fuel pump etc etc. basically all the same type of things you will have to do to a 13b if you want to make any type of power. motor mounts as well. as far as the 20b's being harder to tune, i would have to disagree. more complex yes but still based on all the same principles of tuning 2 rotors. holding together while making n e type of power again i would have to disagree. i have a friend in japan that is about to bring his car here to arizona making alota power still not fully tuned with no issues. ill post his dyno sheet in a bit. but now on to my opinion. because i have been around a couple of 20b fc swapped cars i can tell you its a bit of headaches and empty wallets. granted once they got them they loved them but the road there can be testing. i favor making tons of power with the 2 rotor motors ie: 13bt, or 13b rew, or 13bre motor. if your preferential to the stock twins you can keep them and it will fit in a fc and make good power. any of these motors are decent prices and once ported are capable of excellent power. as mentioned before with the right work done to them and tuned correctly you will make plenty of power to run n e where from 12s down to very low 10s in a street type car. sorry if i left n e thing out its been a long day with no sleep. hope ive helped some
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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and i am so not trying to hijack this thread but hey pianoprodigy how much power did you make with you setup just outta curiosity>???
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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http://azrx7.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=694

theres a link to the car i spoke of

its pretty much identical to my friends 20b fc thats already here in az.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by 1BAD7
i just now took a look at this thread and figured id post on this topic since i have experience in the 20b fc area.

as everyone has pointed out the 20b is going to be a bit pricey to get but still not out of this world. my friends got theirs from our buddy who is still stationed in japan. you can buy them blown for decently cheap. the custom work isn't all that out of this world. but i would reccomend doing nothing less than a standalone ems for management. if your going to run a single turbo setup(which is your best bet) your going to have to have a custom manifold built which is going to be a pretty decent amount of change. bigger fuel pump etc etc. basically all the same type of things you will have to do to a 13b if you want to make any type of power. motor mounts as well. as far as the 20b's being harder to tune, i would have to disagree. more complex yes but still based on all the same principles of tuning 2 rotors. holding together while making n e type of power again i would have to disagree. i have a friend in japan that is about to bring his car here to arizona making alota power still not fully tuned with no issues. ill post his dyno sheet in a bit. but now on to my opinion. because i have been around a couple of 20b fc swapped cars i can tell you its a bit of headaches and empty wallets. granted once they got them they loved them but the road there can be testing. i favor making tons of power with the 2 rotor motors ie: 13bt, or 13b rew, or 13bre motor. if your preferential to the stock twins you can keep them and it will fit in a fc and make good power. any of these motors are decent prices and once ported are capable of excellent power. as mentioned before with the right work done to them and tuned correctly you will make plenty of power to run n e where from 12s down to very low 10s in a street type car. sorry if i left n e thing out its been a long day with no sleep. hope ive helped some
I have a friend whos doing a 13BRE Cosmo,in a FC and it did not fit with TT,He had to go to single.

I havent seen any FC running stock twins.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:36 PM
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i will have to take pics of my buddys 10th ae with the re motor and twins. it was close but it fit.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by 1BAD7
i will have to take pics of my buddys 10th ae with the re motor and twins. it was close but it fit.
post it when you can,and his mod list
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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still havent been able to get over there to get those pics since i am still laid up from knee surgery, but his mod list is upgrade fuel system, haltech e6-x and were putting together a front mount for him now. hes deciding which single he would like to go with down the road.
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