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JOHN VEGA he is the man when it come's to do the wright tune but how ever if BROTHERS RACING IS SCAMING his customers that's wrong big time
when it come's to get my customer's car's tune's done i call JOHN VEGA and never hed any problem's with his attetude
when it come's to get my customer's car's tune's done i call JOHN VEGA and never hed any problem's with his attetude
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first of all, im the shit!!!!!! and another thing
the president said we are going to iraq instarts of a war... I sAid: "Go fuck urself "! who am i to tell the president what to do when he did something.
well now that that business is taken care of, i will tell u why it should be locked.
mtber made his point. alpha adressed it. then it turned into a debate of opinions that didn't make n e one of the parties or thier companies look good. i didnt want it to look like another jamil@ brotherz racing post.
didnt want 2 good names "bitchin" @ eachother for everyone to see. it was only them posting up until i did.
basically i could care less, but i tried to do the right thing, and yes ill say it:
lol who the fuck are you to tell me n e different?
the president said we are going to iraq instarts of a war... I sAid: "Go fuck urself "! who am i to tell the president what to do when he did something.
well now that that business is taken care of, i will tell u why it should be locked.
mtber made his point. alpha adressed it. then it turned into a debate of opinions that didn't make n e one of the parties or thier companies look good. i didnt want it to look like another jamil@ brotherz racing post.
didnt want 2 good names "bitchin" @ eachother for everyone to see. it was only them posting up until i did.
basically i could care less, but i tried to do the right thing, and yes ill say it:
lol who the fuck are you to tell me n e different?

as far as who the fuck i am to tell you different, hi, my name is dustin. nice to meet you.
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and true agendas aside, john(alpha) if you were telling people that they were getting ectune and you were tuning with crome, thats pretty messed up, regardless of the situation and people need to know.
im not saying thats what happened and you have always seemed like a cool guy so i have a hard time believing it, but i dont think john(mtber) would just throw it out there because he is hurting for money.
im not saying thats what happened and you have always seemed like a cool guy so i have a hard time believing it, but i dont think john(mtber) would just throw it out there because he is hurting for money.
how much is it to buy into eCtune? i'll buy in and let alpha tune in my name then all this will be solved and we can work out a percentage of profits... lol why couldnt that just work? we all know Alpha does great work and have never met him but have seen the work he has done and i would back him 100%. lol
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I think the fault lies with eCTune that there software is written with an honesty policy this is 2008 and not everyone is a boy scout. Im guessin people on here dont download music, use hacked software or have multiple computers running on the same OS license. I think this should have been addressed in a more professional manner on mtber part. I have dealt with mtber he is a stand up guy that does care about repeat customers. I do honestly feel this thread was an attempt to attack Alphas rep. Dont know Alpha or anything about him so I cant make any comments good or bad. mtber if I see it wrong well sorry I am entitled to my opinion. Who wouldnt want to be one of the sole honda tuners in the area? $$$$ makes people do things out of character. Just my .02 and none of it may be correct.
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this is no different than the multiple other "scammer" threads that have been posted. the issue was not resolved. i agree that the personal stuff isnt necessary, but other people involved deserve the ablity to comment on this post. locking it takes that away.
as far as who the fuck i am to tell you different, hi, my name is dustin. nice to meet you.
as far as who the fuck i am to tell you different, hi, my name is dustin. nice to meet you.
the further this thread goes the more i think everyone should see it. but it started as 2 people talk about eachother and was going no where...
dustin, ur such a sweet guy
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I think the fault lies with eCTune that there software is written with an honesty policy this is 2008 and not everyone is a boy scout. Im guessin people on here dont download music, use hacked software or have multiple computers running on the same OS license. I think this should have been addressed in a more professional manner on mtber part. I have dealt with mtber he is a stand up guy that does care about repeat customers. I do honestly feel this thread was an attempt to attack Alphas rep. Dont know Alpha or anything about him so I cant make any comments good or bad. mtber if I see it wrong well sorry I am entitled to my opinion. Who wouldnt want to be one of the sole honda tuners in the area? $$$$ makes people do things out of character. Just my .02 and none of it may be correct.
"For goodness sake, let's eat some cake"!!!!
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John. You know you did this to start a pissing match. You knew it would possibly bring you more business. The business you so badly need right now. All the times I have defended you and not believed what people said about you ... You've two faces John. How many people have came to Brotherz Racing, I have talked to at the races, the track, etc. that have said you're an asshole, took advantage of them, wouldnt help them, etc. You will never wash your hands of this issue. You know that and I know that
This thread in no way was to attract more business. I already warned you over the phone that Calvin wanted to make this issue public & you acknowledged it.
If I needed more business I could simply start tuning cars for way less money then I charge now & consider volume versus quality when it comes to pricing.
Sure, some people probably hate me for some unknown reason. Perhaps because I don't like tuning cars that are put together with poor quality & cheap parts.
Now ask your self this. How many people hate CFT? How many people disliked brotherz when you worked there? How many people disliked John Solero? How many people dislike other bay area shops like Driven Concepts etc?
Everyone has their haters. Everyone has their followers etc...
Guess who hears the trash? The competition.
To be honest with you this thread is about principal. You lied your customers & my self concerning eCtune. Not to mention you never bothered to make sure Calvin was being paid for his hard work.
Calvin wont have internet access for a couple more hours? You couldnt wait a couple more hours? Come on John. Be real. You knew this would bring you more business and jumped on it. Like I said off TR. At the end of the day business is business to you and loosing a couple friendships doesnt affect you at the end of a business day
Concerning friendship, I don't want to be friend's with people I can't trust.
I consider what you have done to be manipulative & fraudulent.
Concerning jumping on this for more business: People usually get tuned by the cheapest & quickest solution out there 80% of the time. I know for a fact that I along with LHT are probably the most expensive tuners in the bay area. You don't see me lowering my prices to compete with the competition do you?
on behalf of Calvin thats funny. Like ive said to you before learn aem learn other makes etc and you wouldn't need to worry just about hondas. Alpha will continue to tune and kill your business. he will always be better than you. his customer service and the things he does will always make him better. You are all about yourself and it shows,your ex customers all shit on you and we would always deffend you. i guess we were foolish!
Why? I don't like learning on customer's cars. I don't like asking colleagues for help or calibrations.
I have also defended brotherz & alpha when customers talked bs to me about methods which were used at your facility. It is a revolving door of bs talking in this industry.
hey man, i'm just callin it like i see it. it sure does seem odd that you would do this with no personal agenda, when in fact you also complained to alpha that he was tuning aem to cheap. its not alpha's fault you overprice your services and everyone started going elsewhere.
You overheard alpha & I talking about tuning pricing during a friendly discussion at dinner or breakfast (I don't remember). I informed him that he should charge more for his time for his own benefit.
and true agendas aside, john(alpha) if you were telling people that they were getting ectune and you were tuning with crome, thats pretty messed up, regardless of the situation and people need to know.
im not saying thats what happened and you have always seemed like a cool guy so i have a hard time believing it, but i dont think john(mtber) would just throw it out there because he is hurting for money.
im not saying thats what happened and you have always seemed like a cool guy so i have a hard time believing it, but i dont think john(mtber) would just throw it out there because he is hurting for money.

I think the fault lies with eCTune that there software is written with an honesty policy this is 2008 and not everyone is a boy scout. Im guessin people on here dont download music, use hacked software or have multiple computers running on the same OS license. I think this should have been addressed in a more professional manner on mtber part. I have dealt with mtber he is a stand up guy that does care about repeat customers. I do honestly feel this thread was an attempt to attack Alphas rep. Dont know Alpha or anything about him so I cant make any comments good or bad. mtber if I see it wrong well sorry I am entitled to my opinion. Who wouldnt want to be one of the sole honda tuners in the area? $$$$ makes people do things out of character. Just my .02 and none of it may be correct.
At this point I don't care how it looks. People should know the truth concerning such an act.
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