In all fairness. We have spoke about the issue twice now. I just didnt know the post was going to be created, yet

 

ok, fair enough.

but i still believe that if it was being handled between you two personally, then there is no reason for this thread.

 

You are entitled to your opinion & I can see how it would appear that way.
When someone is charging $100-200 less for tuning then someone else & claiming to use the same software, don't you think they are going to see higher volume? Simply common sense.

The topic isn't about that. The topic is about fraudulently using software & falsely leading customers to believe they were tuned on eCtune when they were tuned on something else. It is legally & morally wrong.

The thread was created to help Calvin find out how many single car licenses he has been scammed out of. It is also here to let Alpha & Brother'z customers know that they may have been taken advantage of.

 

Calvin will be posting on TR shortly concerning the issue.
To all who have been effected, please follow the contact instructions & email calvin from ectune.

 

$100.00 - $200.00 less? Come on John. I charge $350.00 - $450.00 per car plus $65.00 an hour for dyno time. Is that not what you told me you charge? Should I charge $600.00 plus dyno time?

And you know that's a lie about the topic being created for Calvin. Him and I have been speaking through e-mail every day. And I was coming up with a list for him but he was being impatient. I don't have access to the computers I need access to. So it takes time to get numbers, permission, etc. You had and have your own agenda with the whole situation and thread. Period

 

i thank it is a good thread. especially when people like me have to save up to pay for this stuff and then get completly screwed.

 

I am not here to start a pissing match.
Why should I or anyone believe anything you say when you have admitted to lying to customers? Whats next, your friends & colleagues ?

I said what I had to say on behalf of Calvin in the original post.

Calvin informed me he will be signing up for t-r and make a thread concerning the issue as soon as he has internet access so he can take it from there & I can wash my hands of the issue.

 

easy there buddy!!! dont think accusations like that are needed AT ALL!!!!!!!



And if you wanted to keep your hands clean, you should of had calvin post this thread in the first place. then you wouldn't be involved at all. but then you wouldnt have been able to tell everyone that you are the only ectune guy around, right?

 

Yep, your right. I am making the post to try to make my friend's Alpha & Xavier mad at me! I am trying to make them look like liars on purpose... I am also trying to make everyone aware that I am the only authorized eCtune dealer in the bay area when in fact I am clearly listed on ectune.com... Actually, this is not the case at all.

Calvin has limited internet access. Hence my reasoning for making this public for him. Notice how the post asks people to email him.

Once he has access to T-R and makes a thread concerning the issue I will gladly retract all of my posts concerning the topic.

 

John. You know you did this to start a pissing match. You knew it would possibly bring you more business. The business you so badly need right now. All the times I have defended you and not believed what people said about you ... You've two faces John. How many people have came to Brotherz Racing, I have talked to at the races, the track, etc. that have said you're an asshole, took advantage of them, wouldnt help them, etc. You will never wash your hands of this issue. You know that and I know that